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Cavendish are awesome. I love that bikeshop. I'm lucky enough to work around the corner from such a great shop. They were super helpful when I was working out what frame to buy — I bought my iro there and will be getting whatever comes next from there whenever I can afford it :)
The only time I don't buy from lbs is when I buy stuff for my 26" DJ bike, as london is severely lacking in shops with the parts that I want... and chainreaction are so cheap and so quick.
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You're right about not copying anyone, but wrong about Rapha's design as being anything other than great.
Right? Wrong? Good? Bad? All a matter of opinion isn't it?
Generally I think Rapha's design is rather nice (as are their clothes).
However you really have to take anything produced by a company who've just launched a £3k tailored tweed cycling suit with a massive pinch of salt.
Photoben got the right end of the stick. Not bad, just inappropriate. Read first, comment after.
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I noticed that someone mentioned looking at rouleur for inspiration earlier in the thread.
...can I suggest that any similarities with Rouleur or any Rapha stuff is avoided.. I think in design it doesn't speak in the right voice, the typography is too conceived and "classic" to be representative.... as is the photography, all that faux-1930's race imagery doesn't really seem right. I think the book has a lot more to offer than that.
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In that case I am out matey, need 165's, sorry, shame as well, great cranks.
yeah, they're a bit long for me.. unless you've got a super high bb. When I built it I was using it as a bit of a do-all set up (hence gears and longer cranks).. but now I want to build a ss jump bike with a smaller frame, just a back brake and some BMX cranks maybe.
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This is a nice idea.
Can I stick my oar in and offer my services?I work for well known graphic design magazine as a designer and also take care of all the production/retouching work for the mag too. I know I'm a forum new comer but would love to be involved in a project like this and I have quite a lot of experience with this kind of thing.
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Hell sometimes I ride along the fat white line on edge of the bus lanes because i think there is less rolling resistance!
I do that too! Except in the rain - those things are death in the rain.
@ nurse... I know what you mean sort of.. but there is still some incredible riding happening, whatever the bike trends are (these come and go).. I don't ride BMX any more, back and knees too screwed to ride tiny bikes, same reason I stopped skateboarding.. just 26" jump bike atm. About to start building another.
@James, I know I'd make more money by splitting, but I love that bike and I'd rather try to sell it to someone who'll appreciate it too and keep it as it is.
I'm still in two minds though, as I might split it and keep some parts for my new build. Whatever happens I won't be keeping the cranks as I want shorter one's, so I'll let you know. Saint cranks are great, stiff as hell and hollowtech too so nice and light. -
@iro_dan, I would agree with most of what you said especially the last bit about riding the bike and not worrying about if you are doing things properly.
But that kind of contradicts what you say about only doing tricks on proper BMX or street/jump bikes.
sorry mate, didn't mean to ignore this - going blind. Bloody design work.. I can barely see by the end of the day.
I'm all for the 'just go ride' attitude.. I suppose I was just talking about riding progressing , and the only way you can really push something is by choosing the right equipment.. actually, thats not quite right, I think i meant not being held back/handicapped by your equipment..
but anyway.. skids and all that.. sorry fuji bloke for hi jacking your thread..
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Would you be interested in flogging the saint cranks seperately though?
haha - maybe - I'd prefer to do it as a complete. I'd probably make more money breaking it down but splitting bikes makes me sad.
See how the sale goes and if I can't get what I want for it then I'll let you know.
We've managed to get a bit off topic here.... soooo... skids are cool right? :)
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Oh and if you think its next to impossible to hop properly, clearly you haven't seen Tom and Ted ride, those guys can pop 2-3 ft+ hops on fixed easier than most peeps can on bmx, just because you can't do it...doesn't mean there aren't people out there that can :)
I don't try! I have other bikes for that stuff.. I'm a big guy and I break bikes. If I can break a wheel coming up short on a dirt transition on my jump bike then why would I go hopping around on my fixed? Wheel builds cost money!
Each to his own. I'm not getting at anything, or trying to piss anyone off.. just personal preference, I have different bikes for different things.
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Agreed ^....however there are certain things you can do on fixed that you just can't do on any other bike that make it really fun for tricks IMO, actually riding fakie for instance, and being able to maintain speed only (possible on fixed), which is so much fun, generating pop for tricks such as keos etc from the drivetrain, again not really possible on non-fixed, and a fixed gear bike can be made more than strong enough for tricks by combining bmx parts, with the new array of freestyle orientated parts out there constantly being released my progressive companies such as 14, volume, milwaukee etc...
I used to bmx for a long time (7-8 years) and I think its important to remember that bmxes and mountain bikes were never originally designed for tricks either, but yet they both have a freestyle scene, and so does fixed.
Yes there are parts of fixed freestyle that make me cringe something rotten, like all those stationary shitty looking trackstand tricks which bore me senseless, but guys the guys in the vid below are leading the way in fixed freestyle progression.....and i'm liking where its going:
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You almost got the last sentence right, I would change it to "Just ride your bike and don't give a fuck what anyone else thinks :)"Yeah, I can definitely get on board with that!
Nice video, not much progression there really though - just imitating bmx in a really clunky ugly way (apart from all the whirly flatland stuff). There is a reason that dirt jump bikes and bmx's have tiny frames and super low saddles - having a big gate of a frame and a saddle right up your arse makes it next to impossible to hop properly or tweak in the air. Riding larger wheels and a bike with a longer wheel base means that transitions are nothing like as smooth and you have much less control as it's harder to shift your weight forwards/backwards. Just means that riding isn't as fluid.
I just see it as shooting yourself in the foot if you know what I mean - I can totally see the benefit of riding fixed in terms of what you were talking about generating pop and riding fakie - but thats a drivetrain issue, I'm really talking about the build of a bike and it's shape.
I'm all for people doing whatever they want on bikes however they want.. I just think it's a bit stupid to not pick the right tools for the job. I kind of just see it as a fashion thing.
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@iro_dan I wouldn't say it's taboo at all to say stuff like that here..
There are a number of 'fixed freestylers' on the forum but I wouldn't say they're in the majority. I will say though that they can do what they like on whatever bike they like
yes, true! I'm not a bike fascist! Just tools for the job you know.... Track bikes don't have the right geom and the wheels aren't strong enough to really any of that stuff.
Why make it harder for yourself?Unless it's just to look cool? ;)
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this thread is hilarious.
skids are for kids. I know it's going to piss alot of people off here, but really:
a) a skid is not a trick, it's a skid.. its something that will slow you down but also costs you money in tyres, and gives you less control than resisting or braking in a normal way and is generally dangerous in/around traffic unless you're a very experienced and technically accomplished cyclist
b) if you want to do 'tricks' on your bike, don't do it on a 700c wheeled track frame. It's stupid, they're not designed for that..if you want to bar spin, ride banks, hop etc ride a bmx or a 24" singlespeed street/jump bike, with proper rims and with tubes/geometry that can take it.
sorry, I know thats probably a really taboo thing to say here, but I grew up riding mountain bikes and bmx (still do when I have time), so the whole fixed-freestyle thing really makes me cringe.
Just go ride your bike mate and stop worrying about whether you're stopping in the right way.
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Normally trials riding is pretty gay - but this video blows most bmx riding out of the water.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z19zFlPah-o
Hi light got to be the manual section or the flare off a tree around 3:10. Unbelievable
is that a chameleon? They're nice frames, good for everything. Those DJ forks weigh a tonne - got them on my cannondale chase I'm selling soon.
Not sure about a fixed DJ bike though, how would you pump the transitions?!