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Hi Buzz,

Congrats with your frame. Nice one! Spotted it. Not a bad deal. Not bad at all.

I do have an AA in that same paintscheme, including the block letters on the TT.

Gazelle! Pronounced "Gah-zell-uh", according my Dutch friend Almar.

I know a little about them from a conversation with him over beer. He told me about their ubiquity in Holland when he was a boy in the 70's and 80's. I also Googled them and read as much as I could find, mainly from the sites already posted by others on this thread.

Having owned one, I can say it is a fantastic ride, agile and quick, but I'm a weekend warrior and still getting to grips with her around Richmond Park, my standard Sunday blast.

This one (see attached jpg) was put together by RetroDiCorsa for me, a gentleman and an artist when it comes to fine steel.

Hi 1972,

I remember that frame very well. RetrodiCorsa acquired it through me. Never say it built actually. It sure looks nice. Modern era equipment on an old world quality frame. My estimate is that is from 1995. When RetrodiCorsa got it it was still NOS.

@ Zieleman: you got me.... ;-)
I wonder who did the top ends of the S/S.
The red frame shows typical Gerald O'Donovan / Jan Legrand / Peter Serier trade marks. The blue one doesn't.

I took a second close look. I do not completely rule out a previous serial has been milled away. I can see a slightly uneven surface and when going with your fingertips over the surface you can also feel it is not even. Still it doesn't explain the more decorations on the BB lug. I would think that the only plausible Gazelle connection could be that Presto had it made with Gazelle according to his specs.

I checked. I do not know where I got the '71' from, but the serial is P1038.

I know why you're saying that: Because the blue one shows stunning resemblance with a Gazelle A-frame. Some would say it is a modified and refinished A-frame. I do not recall the serial exactly, but it something with 71. Maybe only 71. It has nothing to do with Gazelle serial system anyway. Will check immediately.

After a quick comparison I conclude the brake bridge does differ and the bottom bracket lug shows more decoration than with the A-frame. Chrome was of course not typical for the A, as is the fork. The later 2 can be added/changed, but the bb shell??

I am sorry, I can't help with a trackbike of any of the mentioned marques.

I do have another Presto, but it is a roadframe >> the blue one This one is my size and I plan to build it up with black ano early Dura Ace. Another option under consideration is a mix of Nuovo Gran Sport with Universal Mod 61 brakes.

Btw I notice my initial post is gone when I edited to add * SOLD *. The frame is sold.

Are you sure it's made by Jan Legrand and not by Peter Serier ?

Around that time, Jan was already working for Raleigh.

I am not sure. It is indeed from around when Legrand started to cooperate with TI Raleigh.

Location Q: Right at your door within a couple of days, as shipping is included in the price. I am in Holland.

Offering ca. 1980 Presto frameset. * SOLD *

Frame fully made with Reynolds 531 butted tubing. The Amsterdam Presto marque had their frames made with Jan Legrand at the time. Frame shows great build quality. There is nice detailing like 3 Amsterdam Andreas-crosses on top the seat stays, aero bridges between the stays and a metal headbadge based on the A'dam symbol. Not shown in the pics: An open Roto Italy bb shell.

Condition: With this frame you will not buy a concours winning example, but it is really great for what it is made for: Riding. Driveside toptube shows 4 touch up spots. See pics. I can do that much tidier, but I leave it to you what to do.

Comes with: C-Record headset and C-Record bottom bracket. Both are in great working condition, but I recommend an overhaull. Loose balls in Motorex grease.

Dimension:
ST 54ct
TT 54cc
Seattube inner: 27.2
Seattuber outer: 28.6

Looking for 170GBP shipped

Finished for the summer. Thanks to Zielman for the frame. Rides like a dream!

Looks good! Great to learn you like the ride. Enjoy

Currently working in this baby that I picked up in the Netherlands a couple of weeks ago.
Picture was taken before I started stripping it. Looking forward to take it for a spin though, I'm fond of Gazelle bikes, don't ask me why though.

You got it from Speurders I see. Looks like the team DAF/Cote d' Or paint to me. I am working on the same now. Mine is an 'AB'. What is yours?

Yes, that size matches Ron Groen.
Could be 1983, because he was also in Gazelle's amateur team. Then it was resprayed later, when he joined the Skala team.
Gazelle frame numbers are hard to match with a calander year. There's no direct link between frame number and year.
They just numbered the BB-shells before the frames were produced. The numbering was simply ascending from 0, 1, 2, ... 328xxxx, ect...
They had some books to write the serial numbers they used on which date, when putting the numbers into the bb-shells.

So you where there at the time! Great information, thank you.

Hi tharg2007,

No, I am sorry. This are the only two sizes I have available.

Nice bike. Former (Skil-) Skala Gazelle team.
Looks a bit too small for Ralf Elsfhof. Perhaps Ron Groen's bike ?
What size is it?
I may have done the tech. drawing of that frameset. Probably 1985.
You've got to swap the stem!

Yes, his name was on the tt! I will check the size. Probably 57/58ct. The serial unveiled it is probably from 1983.

Fertig, finally

Thanks for the kind words. Yes, it is a neat stem. Think I keep one for myself, but I only have to find a bike to go with it.

On the red al cap thing: With all respect, but I have my doubts with a 'special caution' on possibility of stripping. How can anyone strip this piece that is only meant as cover? Dmczone, maybe you were very unlucky with a part of a monday morning batch or maybe you simply used extemely disproportional force. Anyway, I feel very sorry for you. I did unscrew one, to see whether there was something interesting going on underneath. Went smooth, easy and with zero mark.

Underneath nothing spectacular going on btw. Only a solid steel bolt leading to a wedge clamp.

NOS & NIB

• 120 and 140
  
• 1''
  
• 26.0 clamp
  
• fluted Columbus tubing
  
• chromed
  
• red anodized aluminum cap covers bolt
  
  

Neatly made. Sturdy and 260gr light.

38 GBP shipped

Thank you all for the kind words.

The frame takes 700c wheels.

• SOLD *
  
  

This mid 70s Gazelle Champion Mondial A-frame is looking for a new caring owner.

Description:
Full Reynolds 531 for frame and fork, Bocama lugs and Campagnolo dropouts. Leaping Gazelle engravings in fork crown, butterfly brake bridge and wrap around seatstay tops. Cream white colour with a green panel on the seattube, a green headtube and green pinstriping around headlugs, seatlug and fork crown. Metal headbadge.

Condition:
Structurally sound with some patina. Good paint with the usual spots of pump fitting and frontbrake-downtube touche. Frame had a simple fender fitted, what did cause a paintdamage on both the seatstays about 2cm above the butterfly. On those spots touch up required with cream white enamel. Hardly a trace of rust. Only little surface rust right were the 2nd cableclamp fits. Fit clamp with grease.

Comes with:
Shimano 600 clamp on shifters, 3 toptube cableclamps, a nos Campagnolo pump umbrella (see last pic) and a Tange headset from a younger era. Personally I would replace it by a period correct silver unit.

Sizing:
The frame comes in 58 flavour (seattube, c-t). Toptube is 56cm long and headtube is 15cm heigh.

Looking for 120 GBP for this nice frame, including shipping.

Drop me a line if you want more and/or enlarged views.

That is bad news

Will keep my eye out for a TVM with Chorus/Record, but I do not expect it turns up here

Personally I would not leave my bike at an open place, but if I had to, I would only use a proper lock by König/Cyclops

Fred,

Good question!

The frame is sold already and the buyer did not take the Cinelli ...so yes, it is available seperately now. The above specced 20 GBP is a trow in with the frame price, as you will understand. For 30 GBP you get stem, hardware, shipped to your place, what I think is still a great deal. Please let me know what size you need: 120 or 125mm

New Old Stock GAZELLE Team frame and forks

Tubing frame: Full Reynolds 531 Trapezi Butted
Tubing froks: Reynolds 531, straight blades
Dropouts: Campagnolo, rear horizontal
Seattube: 56cm c-t
Toptube: 55cm c-c
Heattube: 15cm
Steerer: 1" threaded
Seatpost dia: 27.2mm
BB width: 68mm, English
Rear spacing: 130mm
Detailing: leaping Gazelle engravings everywhere
Colour: pearlescent white
Number plate mount present under the toptube.

I think one of the last frames to have left the Gazelle Dieren, The Netherlands factory. Condition: New Old Stock ...with a few very tiny marks from moving around in storage.

Frame comes with a pair NOS Vredestein Volante 700c 23mm tires in the colour red, see picture. Both in colour and in their Dutch origins a great match.

Also available to go with the frame:
NOS Cinelli XA "Cinelli" pantographed stem in black ano, see 2nd last pic below. Includes various colour seals and bolt in seperate bag. Two sizes available: 120 and 125.

Looking for 200 GBP for frame, forks and tires including shipping.

For the Cinelli XA stem 20 GBP extra.

Hello,

Yes, nice one you're selling bexley

I know one much taller than this one, that was raced by a TVM pro team member. Full DA7400.

Drop me a line if you want to be put through.

Btw Bexley, by the pics I can judge one of his previous owners (the guy you got it from?) was someone from Zaandam.

Hello people,

We all know this topic evolved into a quite lively discussion

Let´s see whether we, with some new elan.... can breath new live in this topic

I reasoned still 1, 2 or more people could be interested in this seat, so I got you some 360 pics ===>

Someone on here said before it is an fugly seat. I do not find it an fugly seat. Like in the pic in combination with the Ti Syncros my impression is they form a distinctive, sophisticated ensamble. For the right build of course, but that is always an important factor. If I had found it fugly I wouldn´t have offered it. It is that simple.

Okay, so I said before I am ready for splitting the lot and that I am shipping 1 or several with pleasure. It is:

1 for 20

3 for 50

shipped.

The 3 for 50 is more favourable thanks to shipping scale benifits. If I pack really smart, without doing concessions to safety of freight, I could even do 4 for 60.

Thank you

you are only on here to sell stuff

My track record is one of selling, that's right. Sold the lot of tyres, sold the GAZELLE Champion Mondial. Up for offering will be Cinelli ''panto'' roadstems, GAZELLE 'baan' with NR pista and I can think of more. I reasoned some of you might like it, but people do not need to buy something of course.

So far sold a job lot of tires and now a job lot of tyres because it creates, especially with tires, substantial shipping benefits, as the stuff has to come from overseas. I am not really in the wholesaling thing. Just a private person with way to much bikes, in attempt to be able to fund at least a small part of his hobby. Okay, I think more are familiar with this.

Okay, splitting now!

20 GBP per seat shipped to any destination in EU
3 for 50

Teenslain,

I am a newbie overhere, but a regular on Retrobike. This Feedback could be helpfull in making people confident in dealing with me.