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As Miyata aficionado since I started riding, I appreciate this Pista >>>

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economy edition under the Team Pista model

Offering Presto 'Model Jan LeGrand' frameset + parts * SOLD *

For period correct build with Super or Nuovo Record

Rare circa 1976 frame built by Jan Legrand. JLG is well known as builder of Prestos, but also as head mechanic of TI Raleigh and master builder for the TI Raleigh team. With his strive for perfection and his interesting detail solutions I personally consider him the best among the Dutch masterbuilders.

Every Presto is unique. I have seen frames with alike detailing, but that also had things done differently at other places. Recognizable as Presto, but you won't find a second.

Features:

• full 531 tubing
  
• Cinelli lugs with cut outs everywhere
  
• 3ple 'X' present on top seatstays
  
• 3ple 'X' engraved under bb shell
  
• Campagnolo drop outs with drillings
  
• Presto typical fork
  
• very light for a 531 frame
  
• Seattube: 56cm C-T
  
• Toptube: 560mm
  
  

Condition:
All original finishing with patina. No concours example, but view it is a great oppertunity to actually ride an unique frame without feeling too guilty. There is surface rust visible there were the chain hit the chainstay and on the non drive rear dropout. Paint shows marks of use, like scratches and chips. Structurally the frame is 100% sound. View pics to form your own opinion.

Comes with:

• Campagnolo Super Record headset. Repacked with new Campag bearings and Motorex grease. Supersmooth.
  
• Campagnolo Super/Nuovo Record bottom bracket with proper steel spindle. Repacked with Motorex. Supersmooth, zero play.
  
• Campagnolo Super/Nuovo Record downtube shifters
  
• rust prevention treatment with Fluid Film AS-R oil
  
  

This chassis is ready for immediate build.

Looking for 235 GBP shipped

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I have also an early 90s Batavus Professional available atm. View it here

The ti finish has a clearer, lighter beige tone than gunmetal as I know it.

I will be there

A couple pics I took of last years event

...and two of the year before (not mine)

Okay, I understand

I do have a pair in titanium finish, but it is destinied to go on my own Gazelle lo pro. If the project won't go through I will let you know. Don't count too much on it though, as I do have pretty much all parts ready. The rims do show some brake wear on the flanges btw, what is not really a problem for me as I will be running my lo pro with Deltas, but I assume you will go for fixed.

Dammit,

You mean 700 to match with the 650 the frame came with? Or a new 650?

Does it mind if it isn't a Regida, but a rim in similar finishing? (without decal alike)

Offering Batavus Professional frameset * SOLD *

Fine Dutch competition aimed frame of the early 90s. Similar frames were raced by the Dutch National team to victories on Worlds and Olympic events. For example by Erik Dekker and Leontien van Moorsel.

This particular frame is made using full Columbus SP tubing, what means it lends itself very well for the heavier and/or stronger rider. The frame is handbuilt in Holland at Batavus' own small series shop.

I am personally very much fan of this paintscheme: It is an original one with silver, red and a nice ....lila candy

Features:

• full Columbus SP tubing
  
• Bocama Professional lugs
  
• Cinelli Aero crown
  
• Dardanne open bottom bracket shell
  
• Campagnolo drop outs
  
• chromed chainstay
  
• brake cable through toptube routing
  
• metal headbadge
  
• Seattube: 60cm C-T
  
• Toptube: 575mm
  
• braze on for race number
  
  

Condition:
Honest frame with patina. It is a used frame, so expect scratches and other paint imperfections. Backside seatstays 10cm under seatlug shows paintdamage, possibly caused by fender. Structurally the frame is 100% sound and ready for many many fast miles. I personally believe it will make a great looking bike as rider, but view pics to form your own opinion. There are many.

Comes with:
Suntour Superbe headset. Topcup that fits into the frame needs replacing, as the current one is eating balls.

Looking for 160 GBP shipped

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I have also a Presto available atm. View it here

yearning for the 1st ride - another Batavus story

Within now and an half our it will be the 1st time out for me on this gem. In the snow. The bike has been collected by me recently. It was the crossbike of ex-team Batavus rider Egbert Koersen. Drivetrain is full Dura Ace with the exception of Suntour VX rear mech with 1st generation Tacx jockey wheels - the ones without teeth. Brakepower is delivered by MAFAC through DA levers. Tape is white cotton dipped into shellac. To me it looks like that this bike has still pretty much its original specs.

Frame: Full 531 tubing, Bocama lugs, Zeus 2000 crown and Campagnolo dropouts. More on it here >>>

Okay, I see. p429, posts 21407 and 08

The 1st is located in Belgium, the 2nd is offered by a quite well known Dutch collector.

Couple weeks ago I put the 1994 race catalogue on the scanner. Full catalogue can be viewed on Jan's site (Gazelle Pages). The catalogue included this 'Tijdrit-Frame' >>>

Full 531C, Campa dropouts, indented seat tube to make room rear tyre, choice of for 26'' or for 28'' front wheel and choice of for road or for track. Frame pictured has, unlike with dicki's frame, no monostay.

I have a frame pretty much like this, but using 653 tubing. The seat tube is not indented and connection of the rear drop outs is done differently, using a kind of sleeve method looks like. Seen with more Gazelle 653 frames.

Here a pic of my old Gazelle baan >>>

On Jan's site

I see you also took off most of the NR Pista parts. Do you like the current better? I advised Simon to take the NR Pista off and put them on his Zieleman - he prefered to keep the Zieleman, but that one had some mediocre parts imo. He wouldn't want to go through the hassle.

Bling-bling! NOS? What's it going on?

No, not NOS and not complete, but I already had some of the parts. I initially planned to put them on a Gazelle lo pro, but I decided for a more aerodynamic C-Record/Chorus mix instead. Alternatively for example above red/yellow Batavus Professional could be an option for the 50th. It is of 84/85, so pretty much accurate. I could also bolt them on a Japanese/Dutch Koga-Miyata FullPro. This will give a very interesting combination, as Dura Ace EX is of course the common spec for this bike. Miyata US did have the Team Miyata SL model with Super Record in the early 80s, but in Europe Koga was also Shimano importer, so always Shimano.

Btw I know a guy who has two(!) of this cases and a 3rd(!!) recently built on his Gios. Personally I do not see the point of have such a NOS gruppo fitted in a case, as it would be pretty much useless laying around here.

@zieleman are the zieleman bikes anything to do with your family name ? or is it just a coincidence ?

Zieleman is not my family name. I named my forum name after the Zieleman bike, as at the time I subcribed I were busy and complety involved with restoring/building a Zieleman (the black Type Special above)

Okay, great. I spotted it live, because I know fellow SAAB-afficiado Simon quite well. I learnt the bike used to belong to 'Rini Boogerd'

I also had the oppertunity to take a look at the other stuff Simon offered, with among it 3 Zielemans of which one very rare track example. I bought a Campagnolo 50th anniversary groupset from him for one of my classic projects. Put some pics up Fruit.

White/antracite, NR Pista? That is a nice one.

Correction, silver/antracite

White/antracite, NR Pista? That is a nice one.

I am 1.85m. For me it fitted great, but I ride away on pretty much everything. If you really think you would need something like 64cm, that would imply you have quite long legs for your lenght. It also surprises me me with eye on that your regular roadbike is only a 58. Koga did not do a 64 RecrodPro btw. Tallest was 60.

Also take into account that on that Koga brochure pic the seat was possibly located on the low side. Photographers are probably more concerned with taking pictures than setting a seat at the right height for a rider.

Hope you will be able to solve it. DC's offer of a long post for shipping is very kind.

Intermezzo II >>> another Dutch make: Zieleman

Ko Zieleman was a small builder from the Reggestraat in Amsterdam. His frames are highly regarded. They were raced by many pros, but they were all Zielemans in disguise. Sponsoring was something Ko didn't do. All frame left the shop being paid for.

60s Zieleman Type Special >>>

The frame was refinished in the 80s. When I got my hands on it was equipped with a mix of Nuovo Record and Dura Ace. I rebuild it with the about the most exquisite 80s typical stuff: Weinmann Delta Pro brakes, Roval aero wheels and Super Record. An aero dress for this sinsiter black beaut.

Couple detail pics:

Brakes Dart Vader approved >>>

Cinelli 1R stem, Zieleman pantographed >>>

I saw it went for $400, so I think the buyer did a good deal with the NOS(!) frame.

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The frame was raced by Marcel Duijn when the bosses were moved to their later and current position. Koga did it for him. It was done to make frame ready for use with STI (at some later point GripShift SRT800 units were installed on a Speedliner). I do not know why they meant that it had to be done, as I have here an ErgoPower Gazelle lo pro with the STI adjusters simply mounted on an adapter piece on top the single downtube boss. Only reason that I can think of is that Marcel or Koga prefered a neat look on a bike that gets in the spotlights, so with STI adjusters on the logical place and no adapter.

Good to hear it arrived in great shape (of course) and that you like what you got. Enjoy it, you got yourself unique piece and a great basis for whatever project you imagine.

If it does not fit me then it will be for sale in the New Year.

However my fingers are crossed on the size front.

Now what RAL is baby blue?

RAL 5018 was Turqoise on older Yetis. Maybe that does?

Personally if I would have gone through with the project, I think I would have finished it in candy purple with glitter dust and fork in full chrome.

Dammit can be building this baby under the Christmas tree.

SOLD it is.

Yes, I will trow in a triathlon example anyway and I will dive in my mighty pile of stuff to see whether I can find a regular one as well.

As beautiful as it is, I just can't do this justice at the mo - over to you Dammit...

Okay M-X.

Thanks for your interest.