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Don't get me wrong, guys, I'm all for a successful cycling scheme in London. I just felt it was easier/safer to ride in Paris than London. I'm talking first impressions and gut feeling here, I'm not pretending it's facts and science.
Safety in numbers is something that comes back often in such debates. If one can bring a safe environment for cyclists of all abilities then I'm all for it. If you are involved in the project, Oliver, you have all my support (for what it's worth ;-) and I wish you to success. -
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I've used the Velib' in Lyon first then in Paris and I loved the experience. The bikes are well-designed for what they're for, and it made my stay in both cities more enjoyable. However, I dread to think about a similar scheme in London. Not for its success potential, but for the safety issues involved. There are people on this forum that have access to figures that I just haven't seen, but I do believe in all honesty that it would not be a safe option for your average commuter in London. It's all about attitude and mentality towards cylists. I know Velib' daily users who hadn't touched a bicycle for years. The similar type of people over here would never even consider riding in central London, and who would blame them? Is it just a question of training these people, and building their confidence? Aren't they entitled to a safe riding environment first and foremost?
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Not this one. But I do like this one too! I saved the pic on my computer but I'm at work now.
I might take the opportunity to hijack the thread and asks where I can get a non machined, non deep black rim in London? I'd like a new back wheel with a coaster brake on. BlackOpen sport are machined (so i was told in condor) and Cavendish suggested Areohead (I think) but I was quoted about 40 squids (off budget) and they don't have any in stock at the moment. All suggestions welcome. -
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Monday - Souths @ The Coach and Horses
old timer(s): andyp, SPAGHOOPS, eyebrows, clefty, gizmond
newbies: JOHNNY FITZ, wilda, d14vd_hTuesday - Norths @ The Flask (fingers crossed)
old timer(s): Spins, PinkGottiMobbs
newbies: fred, Slag, mmccarthy (hopefully), Matt, Van Damage, gizmond, LoloTuesday - South Easts @ The Kings Arms
old timer(s): Dammit
newbies: tricitybendix (I can still be a newbie if I've already been once, right?), GormleyTuesday - Trixie Dix @ White's Row Car Park Roof. White's Row, Off Commercial Street
old timer(s):
newbies: JOHNNY FITZ, philjay (been a few times)Wednesday - Easts @ The Royal Inn on the Park
old timer(s): Van Damage, kattt, gizmond, somebody
newbies: JIMALEXThursday - Wests @ The Crabtree or The Ship (season dependent)
old timer(s): Aroogah / Fred / mmccarthy (must I be an old timer? =P)
newbies: kattt, gizmond (been once)Sunday - Polo @ various locations
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Reading the nursery manifesto: check
Nothing to sell: check
Search facility used: check
Ahem... I've been loitering for about a year now. Thought I'd introduce myself and say hi to everyone and congratulations for a great forum (full of nonsense but funny, informative and containing LISTS).
Will try to make it to North beers some day. I live North. And like beer.
Thanks Andy.