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The Mail On Sunday is a different paper to the Daily Mail. Its editor isn't Dacre but Peter Wright

he he!

Guardian search on James Martin is useless, can someone please post the link?

all I said was that they were chasing up the story... not that they'd published anything

It is having an effect... apparently Guardian Media are chasing up the story right now...

forget all those noncy studenty books

the Editor may take more seriously a load of complaints via the PPC, but only for that reason.

Gerard Greaves
Editor
Live Magazine
Mail on Sunday
2 Derry Street
London W8 5TT

sorry, the ^^^ was irrelevant

^^^

I am 'repurposing' my Friday evening and instead of a quiet one in with the missus I'm going get as pissed as a twunt

^ Dorothy Parker is the best

I like to have a martini,
Two at the very most.
After three I'm under the table,
after four I'm under my host.

skids are for gayers.. FACT

... I don't skid

best: cycling cross the Serpentine, 9.28am today

worst: Kuntish Town Road, 7.31pm today

Michelle Obama

candyfloss

cashmere

face lifts

nothing like Wagamama but cheap good and central

wahaca.co.uk

Not the time and place for it, we don't know whether the person under took, or the lorry cut in/didn't indicate.

I think we can all agree it's a tragedy

You're right. Sorry.

Bites tongue

sadly I do blame lorries.

bendy buses... another hideous hazard. Was almost caught between two- each coming in the opposite direction - in Oxford Street yesterday. Missed them by feet. Yikes

I can join Platini on his subbing desk

i think cycle lanes have their place... but it's better to dominate the road as much as possible - and probably fuck off the drivers behind you - rather than be forced into a narrow lane by the kerb

I've added this link to the Standard's story about yesterday's E&C accident so the some of us might put some of the ideas we've come up with here on to the 'Comments' on the Standard website. It could help spread our message to a broader public

http://tinyurl.com/ckthgr

sorry, it should read 'this road safety thing'

i get what you mean bill, but I think road this who safety thing has to involve many different ideas including driving/cyclists recognising potentially dangerous situations. One of those ideas - a good one - are signs on lorries. They shouldn't be dismissed out of hand. That doesn't mean that there are many other - the more the better - ways to may roads safer

the sign is still useful despite what it may imply... if it stops someone undertaking a lorry it's done its job

thats the accident at E&C yesterday by the way

actually, the report in todays Standard gives quite a detailed description of how the accident happened... from witnesses there at the time... both the female cyclist and the lorry were turning left and the cyclist was trapped by railings and then crushed by the rear wheels of the lorry.

may have been covered already in another thread but...

a woman cyclist was crushed to death by a lorry yesterday afternoon at Elephant and Castle roundabout... photograph of the scene in today's Standard. She and the lorry were turning left at the same time.

Horrific