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i email the radsammler.de and he asked 690€ for a gazelle track frame ahahahahaha

i will sell you mine for half that :)

the guy on the right has his leg through the wheel?

it is a colnago master pista by the looks of it
http://www.google.nl/images?um=1&hl=nl&safe=off&tbs=isch%3A1&sa=1&q=colnago+master+pista&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&oq=&gs_rfai=

not really rare but very nice nonetheless

when making a lot of aliases one tends to forget which fake email adress you used for the account

ON EBAY HERE

on a bike like that i wouldnot put a strada crank

you need to ban the ip or ip's if he is using several

vb has 'buttons' to click to see what other aliasses are made from a certain ip, at least on the forum i am admin on i can see all that stuff

last pricedrop before its going to the evelibay GBP175,- delivered

@cyclotron it is different because pple on the forum sell stuff for much cheaper than anywhere alse because they think they are selling it to someone who is going to use the item for his/her own bike not to sell somewhere else with a profit. my 2 cents

nice merckx 250,- campy record something for you max?

http://link.marktplaats.nl/381113340

the hubs look like they can take some abuse, my profile axle broke after 1 pivot, waiting on the true axle now but still only 10mm

pricedrop 185,- delivered in EUR1

blix is a member on here, maybe he can tell us

got more info on that Fruit? how come it had MX Leader fork? i'm confused...

dont know about that, maybe the frame came without a fork and he bought that separately, i dont know. Not sure the blue is a balckx either though, cant see the pics here at work just the one pic that is on the listing.
the one i sold was a balckx if the blue one looks like this
http://static.lfgss.com/attachments/29551d1281952185-_mg_2079.jpg
it is probly a balckx :)

only good experiences with Hilary here also

we call them balckx :)
but they are 100% made by merckx factory, so they are merckxes

all i know is that they used to make bmx bikes, pretty good ones actually. i think they used a kuwahara in ET (phone home)

^^ post it in the bike porn thread then if it's nice.

not like someone on here is going to buy it, why post it in the classifieds.

its not THAT expensive

Interesting. Tying & soldering does stop crossed spokes moving around and rubbing against each other but that's not really an issue on road/track bikes. I wonder if the hard impacts are de-tensioning the spokes to such an extent that they benefit from being tied. But if that was the case I'd have thought that the wheel would be right on the edge of collapse anyway.

Are these 700c wheels you're talking about? Smaller rim diameter and higher spoke count would make a much bigger difference to stiffness & strength than tying the spokes.

hard impacts were indeed loosening up the nipples and getting the wheel out of true, pairing up the spokes with the tying reduced this effect a lot, i also think the tied wheels can handle sideways impacts better when 180's are something like that are landed badly.
i am talking about 700c wheels and same goes for 26inch, deep v's with high flange hubs 32 or 36 spokes, i would recommend tying and soldering for all wheels meant for tricks even the 48 spokes ones as i have seen oskar's spokes gone loose as well

Tied & soldered makes pretty much no difference to strength. It was originally done to prevent spokes flying around when they broke.

tying and soldering does actually affect the strength of the wheelbuild, while doing tricks, 180's and jumping stairs and stuff like that wheels get really stressed a lot, before i tied and soldered all the wheels in our trickbikes we had the wheels go bad really soon like within a week maybe two. The tied and soldered wheels last months and months before i have to true them again

i thought all spoke failure was due to bad wheelbuilding

yes i did, same tubing roadbike size 61 so i figured the tubes would be long enough but the 59 track bike needed longer tubes somehow, about 15mm too short they were :(

@Fruit What gear are you pushing there?

49/13 havenot put much thought into the gear yet, just screwed on what i had laying around to get it rolling untill i decide what components i am going to put on there, i think i am going to take the parts from the colnago and hang that on the wall untill i can find a tubeset for it which is extremely hard to find

i cant see a picture, could be my browser tho

HACS Horizontally Adjustable Chain Stay tensioning system

i dont understand this, they make the frame so it can 'slide' to adjust the chaintension? looks like i break it on the first day ,wtf is wrong with trackends