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Bloody hell, that BB is high! Awesome build though!

Just got back my old Lemond Fillmore frame. Fair to say it's had a few stickers added since I last owned it.

Wheels and tyres and bottle cages are temporary.

These will be going on this week.

H Plus Son Archetypes on Shimano XT hubs. Rear is a 15mm bolt through with custom axle/converter.

Elite Custom Race all the way. I have Elite Ciussi Inox and Tacx Taos on other bikes because they suit the builds but they are both shit. Custom Race cages are cheap, light, hold bottles well, don't wreck them and most importantly for me, they are nice and easy to get bottles in and out. Hate being at that point in a ride where you're literally running on fumes and then trying to faff around getting a bottle back in an awkward cage.

It's the stem/bar combo that kills it!

Anyone running Omniums on a new Pre Cursa? What's clearance like?

Anyone seen the article on bike biz yet?

http://www.bikebiz.com/news/read/independent-dealer-is-key-to-foffa-bikes-future-says-founder/016458

Just spotted this. Ideal for anyone wanting a cheap as chips saddle to sell on a bike or something.

Also that saddle is clearly slave as fuck!

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Yeah, that's why I like it. It's slave!

Thanks for the kind words on my build tho.

Lent the frame to my mate. I like his build better. Looks rad in the flesh. It's my photography skills or lack of that let it down.

excuse the piss poor phone pic

Fair enough. I've always gone with the manufacturers recommendation for the chainset. It'd have to be a pretty poor quality M8 bolt not to take at least 35Nm. I'd expect all but the very cheapest to take 50Nm tbh.

Totally agree with your comments regarding lubrication of bolts and tapers. Blows my mind when I see people on here actually singing the praises of fitting crank arms dry and suggesting that lubricating the tapers might cause the crank arms to "slide off". Insane!!

24Nm for square taper?

Yeah, agree. Especially if you're gonna be riding on the street. They're not the lightest out there but they're good quality and they're solid. Bit like Thomson stuff and Omniums really only much better value :)

Got mine back in road mode with freshly resprayed fork.

Got round the Isle of Wight on it on Sunday. Pretty stoked.

The issue is that riding fixed puts a force on the chainring in one direction and then in the opposite direction when resisting the pedals. Because there is always a small amount of play, where the bolt goes through the chainring/spider, it will allow it to rotate back and forth just enough to make everything come loose. If you countersink the chainring/spider and use a countersunk bolt + a bit of thread lock, you should be okay. Hope that makes sense.

(Don't know about Gusset but as mentioned before, Profile use imperial hardware)

Sold

Looks rad

I'll have a look into it but I'd be surprised if they could do it that cheap when Parcelforce wanted nearly £50

On their pricing page it came in at under £30 insured but when it gets to a certain size they use a thing called volumetric weight to bump the price right up! It's a right con!!

This is available for sale again thanks to the stitch up bastards at Parcelforce who don 't bother to mention volumetric weight when you get a quote. As a result it's gotta be £400 posted. Really nice solid steed though and well worth the money.

comes across as polite and surprisingly accommodating to criticism.

Lol

And Chris Borneo, I appreciate you taking your time to justify the price difference between the Charge and the Foffa, while some of the things you said might sound sensible, unfortunately I am not sure why you would say some of the other things, since you wouldn't be in a position to be able to state them:

• How would you have checked the welding of our frame sets if our bikes haven't arrived in the UK yet?
  
• How would you know whether they are not that light if you wouldn't have had the chance to pick one up and be able to tell?
  
  
  

I was comparing the bikes you sell through wiggle to the current Charge Plug. Thought those were the bikes people were discussing.

Have you ever taken the time to properly compare them yourself? From some of your comments, I wonder if you've ever even given one of your own bikes a thorough inspection or whether you just make all your comments based on specs in catalogues and samples?

I am seriously curious to know how people will be able to justify the additional £100

Although your frameset is supposedly 100% cromo, the quality is terrible and they are really not that light. Since you moved production of your frames from Taiwan to China*, the quality of the welds has become very poor and the tube profiles on the fork and stays are horrible. The only particularly good thing about the frameset is the cast track ends and instead of using the built in chain tensioners, you've opted for 1 really cheap and nasty lollipop tensioner, on the drive side only, which I'm guessing has saved you about 2p per bike. The Charge does have cheaper track ends but otherwise the quality of the frame, especially the tube set, is of a significantly higher standard.

As for componentry, you did not mention the saddle. The Charge comes with their Spoon saddle and while by the nature of bicycle saddles, it will not be a perfect fit for everyone, it is probably the best middle ground saddle I know of in it's price range and it is a country mile ahead of the retro styled cheapo you have chosen for your bikes. The seatpost albeit a budget alloy affair is still significantly better that yours, which is fitted with a pressed steel clamp I might add.

The headset you use is one of the worst components on your bikes and like all cheap threaded headsets, the tab washer is made of cheese, making it an absolute nightmare to adjust. Charge have seen the error of their ways and gone back to a threadless setup this year. It's half decent quality, easy to adjust and it will stay tight!!!

You mentioned the sealed hubs and I'm glad to hear you will be speccing sealed bearings in future. These are a big plus, especially as a lot of people buying these kind of bikes are not always that hot on maintenance. Otherwise, apart from the aesthetics, I wouldn't say there's much in it between the two wheel sets.

Finally there's the little details, like the quality of the bar tape and the chrome cable clips that the charge comes with.

This may sound harsh, although I'm sure you will agree, no harsher than your criticism of the Plug but it is my honest opinion. If you go back a few pages, you will find that about this time last year, I was singing the praises of your bikes over the Charge Plug. They really were very good but unfortunately, just as you were starting to get it right, you have slashed costs, on every component and now they are very cheap.

So I guess in summary, that's where I think the extra hundred pounds goes and personally I think it's worth it.

*I am quite aware that there are many products made in China of as good or better quality than many made in Taiwan, you get what you pay for etc. but I believe this is the case in this particular situation.

Paid for in full now so definitely sold.