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I'll take the bars off your hands if no one else has?

Im not sure what the rules for the bike to work scheme are... if your allowed building your own bike is probably the most cost effective way... look for a 'nearly new' second hand frame and you can go pretty high end if your patient... I got a 6mnth old s-works tarmac for £650... barely a scratch (from one of those city types). If not allowed think using the ribble bike builder is the way to go. Their frames are pretty good for the price.

Also recommend shimano ultegra spec wheelset for best bang for your buck.

Can someone tell me roughly what time they will close the road on mt Ventoux to enthusiasutic amateurs?

Im hoping to watch the sprint in Aubenas the day before and ride up the hill on the morning of the stage. Hopefully see some of you punks on the slope.

Expecting the schleck bros to bust up the astana party

just logged back in to keep fully up to date with this thread, how au fait is that?

Cant believe its still going does no one have work to do?

sorry made a mistake. all the gold etc how flava flav is that

Fresh's avatar... how N.W.A is that

I think the bad rep the dynamo gets is a bit unfair. Its probably less friendly just because its bigger so not everyone knows each other. sat morning ride can be grumpy... but these are often the city boy... all the kit ride like shit/all the gear no idea types. If anything the fast guys and old hands are the most friendly. I dont have the legs for the 1sts but 2nds pretty cool and amiable... the lower down you go tho it seems the more likely you are to get shouted at by some grumpy kn*b with a team discovery jersey on over his fat belly.. whilst on a pair of tubular zipps

When I first started training I was completely out of my depth and hit the bonk bad on a hills ride. The guys I was riding with were really friendly... actually taking it in turns to push me rather than drop me. It was touching/humiliating

judging off my own I would say about 2Kgs

Yeah man I think its well unfair that they let people with the obvious advantage of missing limbs in races

Why not? Chances are that he would see it as a perfectly normal greeting. Try to watch out for signs from him that it makes him uncomfortable and if you don't see any, he probably doesn't see anything wrong with being touched in greeting in this way. It can often be the awkwardness of people who feel apprehensive about physical disabilities that is more inappropriate. A greeting can bridge a divide between us, there's a reason why such gestures exist, and they don't necessarily change just because someone has a visible physical disability. Disabled people are still people who understand life in much the same way that we all do.

I agree but what if he doesnt have a right hand?

Assos is really good kit and for key garments like shorts and body warmers well worth the price. The Rappa stuff is clearly cooler though, too cool for me anyway... maybe one day I will make it to full fakenger grade.

Iv never tried it but have been told that for a good product at bargain price wiggle own brand DHB do decent kit, also I really like my altura jacket which is bargain basement in comparison

Wow this is just like an episode of the moral maze... Where's Micheal Buerk?

for my 2 cents I think Ghost bikes are a positive thing showing some kind of basic solidarity between cyclists... its nice to think others care when someone gets hurt or killed riding a bike. Also think the Brick lane bike should be re-sprayed so as to remove the obvious offence it is creating (hence this thread)

These amputee riders are absolute legends every time I see one I wanna shake their hand (then I realise im a patronising wanker). As Cliveo said there are a couple of pretty strong one legger riders often to be seen in Richmond park.

There is also some messenger looking fellow who I often see pelting along whitechapel road with only one arm. I came up to him at the lights once and really wanted to shake his hand.. hmm maybee not.

BTW: Germans only ever laugh at fart jokes

uh oh feel like im going down here... but not without a fight :) I was just quoting eddy 'the God' Merckx in my initial comment.

In terms of sprinting core strength no doubt vital for effective power development, but for less explosive parts of cycling even getting out the saddle up a hill helps with basic core stability... pro cyclists (dunno much about track riders) literally spend years of there lives on bikes, unlike say rowing where gym work is given a near equal status to water time, that is just not the case in cycling. Like I said cross training can be usefull but I would say unless you are a sprinter, it pails into insignificance next to just getting the miles done, so assuming you only have a set amount of time to train for your cat 2 race or whatever, what im saying is spend it on your bike in the hills not in the gym.

Surely in group riding having to go mental down a hill is incredibly rare as once your on someones wheel there is no way they are going anywhere, you can pretty much coast and stick with them?

this comment ""train with a goal in mind". different goals require very different training approaches" is the most sensible on this thread

From previous non cycling related training I found Russian twists and inclined sit ups to be the best core strength improvement but then I guess its really hard to isolate what area of your training is leading to the biggest improvement.

What is a chest press BTW?

@ scrapper... now we're talking, Im gonna ask my mum to buy me one.

@ RPM... OK i will buy that some cross training may help for core stability thus particularly usefull for sprinting stuff, but generally there is no substitute for milage under the belt when it comes to plugging up hills etc. You can also help improve core strength by cycling.

Intreuging but I was always told, if you want to get better at cycling then just get on your bike and cycle...LOTS!

snobbery to be expected at Harrods surely... its part of the posh people experience

Cant believe it.. thought a SS forum would be one place where the old campy vs shimano never-ending argument would never have to raise its head!... It really will never end

Generally if you dont use all there gears you A) have the wrong ratios or B) just aren't riding very efficiently. I use every one of my 12-27 on both rings (with standard chain rings find I run out of gears up the steep ones).Spend most of the time spinning the legs quickly in the low gears, especially up hills, reserving the lower cadence stuff for the short bursts attack/sprints/out the saggle stuff or when your sat at the back out the wind. When I started I found I really had to force myself to spin the legs as it almost feels harder but in the long run staves off the blactic much more effectively.

BTW for any one after an OTP charge plug, this looks like a pretty good deal (note the £40 worth free accesories)
http://www.cyclestore.co.uk/productDetails.asp?productID=14037&catID=752

STOLEN: SS with unusual specialized alu prototype frame, black open pro rims, chorus cranks & keo pedals

Long shot but if any one spots this (on brick lane 2moro maybee) please get in contact at stevie-c-22@hotmail.co.uk or PM me here... for a reward of a few pints.

Dunno much about its origins but its vertical rear drops are about 121mm spacing (no bend in stays it was made like this). noticable by the STUPID LONG REAR AXLE I added, pokes out about 3/4 inch each side. Suffered serious kink in rear rim and re-trued not too well. Stolen from railing just outside dovetail pub on St. Johns square off the Clerkenwell road. Friday between 6&8pm. Partly my fault for using a shit ass lock

Fuck them good! I thought I was clever putting 2 conti versions on with a pair of michelin pro race lights the day b4 a hill ride. Sat down to watch TV & 5 mins later BANG! Went over to inspect, and as I drew my face close to the wheel... BANG the other one went off. In auto reflex panic I reared up and banged my head hard! The worst £12 I have ever spent.

Co2 canisters a waste of time and money unless ur racing. + weight weenies consider the fact that Co2 is heavier than air probably a good 0.0001 of a gram wasted weight

clear copy and paste from word blunder above, apologies.

Anyway in addition, the best retaliatory move I have witnessed involved a training ride with a friend though surrey hills. A white transit pulled out in front of us steaming down hill and was a pretty hairy moment indeed. Pull up at some lights at bottom of hill and my freind knocks on the window of drivers side... 3 big bare chested tattooed goons in cab. Im thinking shit could be in trouble here as my friend was full of rage. But as they scrolled the window down he just grabbed keys out of the ignition and started riding with me in hot pursuit. He then flung them into a field and we rode off watching three angry builders chasing us down the road and laughing very very hard!

[FONT=Trebuchet MS]"I like doing the 'go slow' in front of them. It does more damage to their fragile little minds than a load of yelling (which I would've done already anyway).[/FONT]
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[FONT=Trebuchet MS]That assumes they won't just plough through you...[/FONT]
[FONT=Trebuchet MS]2 weeks ago I got into verbals with some pikey in a barry'd up Focus. Actually He started it by coming over and pulling window down after I shook my head at him for pulling out of side road when I was riding past... flippin close. Anyway got to a junction and pulled up next to each other, I tried to ignore him and take the moral high ground but as we pulled of he swerved over to try and crush me against another vehicle. Thankfully the other un-sighted driver spotted and hit brakes saving my bacon.[/FONT]
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[FONT=Trebuchet MS]The most frustrating bit was I tanked after him intend on ripping off his wing mirror in traffic and then disappearing into the night, but he turned off just as I reached him… admittedly had the rage on so probably for the best.[/FONT]

Im surprised people aren't more agro about this. Surely anything that encourages car use immediately dicourages the use of bikes just by its nature. More commuters will opt for car over bike or public transport. Also reduction in TFL budget bad news for everyone including cyclists no?

Roads pretty jammed in the west now, surely now only gonna get worse = bad news for everyone

Sorry for hijak but was wondering if any of you more experienced peeps could guide me as to the quality of an eccentric hub. have duffed and trued my back wheel numerous times and its now far from round so gonna get a new one buit (by some kind of expert).

Currently riding vertical drops SS with chain tightner but was looking at the eccentric and tempted to go for it... need input from those in the know. Is it a quality part and would the chain line be ok for a freewheel one side and fixed the other?

Cheers