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England and Wales! Check you out. Not a lot of people HERE know that the law is a different animal in Scotland.
As you can probably tell there are a lot of people here who would agree that traffic-antagonising behaviour isn;t why we go. I'd actually like to see the Mass only occupy the left-hand lane (don;t need to tell you that we drive on the left) where there are two lanes, so motor traffic can pass, if a little slower than normally, on our right. But of course there's no chance of that since organising a broad church of cyclists is akin to herding cats.
Yeah, I know you drive on the left. I do to, since I live in London now. I still catch myself drifting to the right from time to time, though. Pretty scary or at least embarrassing.
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Not necessarily. Parliament and the Government are in London. Different rules and different political/policing considerations apply.
Perhaps. But this was decided by Law Lords, so it means (if I'm correct) that it was decided in the highest court of appeals in the UK. And I believe most, if not all, Police services in England and Wales are subordinate to the Home Office... so this ruling against the Met might indeed have ramifications in other areas in England and Wales.
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The name of the forum gives that away though, pal.
On London's CM there is an element of what our Floridan friend mentions. But this is negated by the joy of it such as Mr Blackfoot mentions above, that I found so hard to verbalise, but likened to our night ride culture too... its a liberating experience, and worth going along sometime, whatever the trustafarian critique has to offer. Wouldn't it be boring if we were all doing it for the same reason? Its a 'broad church'.
I think perhaps I've come off as being a bit defensive in my replies, but that wasn't intended. (Of course I'm going to say that, though).
I can't see anything wrong with going out for a bike ride. But I don't think riding a bike should be some sort of competition. Unless, of course, you're racing or something.
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Fair enough... and yes, I realise the article was referring to CM in London (although I'd imagine it would have legal ramifications throughout England and Wales). I was expressing an opinion about CM in general (based, as I admitted, on my experiences in the US); however, regardless of the (apparent) inaccuracy of the 'hipster' stereotype vis a vis CM in London, I still take issue with many of the aims/tactics of CM in general. I don't agree with blocking traffic and I think it does more to tarnish the image of cyclists in public minds than it does to raise awareness.
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Have you seen the people on critical mass? ever been?! I'm pretty sure my grandma was on it last time, naked.
I think I remember her.
My issue with Critical Mass (admittedly more so in my hometown of Jacksonville, FL... not seen it in London) has always been the way it is used to pretty much flout traffic laws and be assholes. I think everyone should ride a bike, but that doesn't mean I think cyclists have priority. Share the road means share the road. I can't stand it when cyclists just ignore the rules and act like they're so fucking special because they ride a bike.
And in my hometown, Critical Mass rides became an excuse for a bunch of Scenearchists to get together and show everyone how cool they were b/c they had fixed gear bikes and matching outfits. Then they'd all retire to a nice vegan meal afterwards. All this, of course, was bankrolled by their parents.
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Not so sure about Scotland and NI.