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Hi there.

Was just browsing some info on the sugino messenger crankset and apparently it's very noisy?!!?! Possibly down to not being set up right, but surely you can get the right chainline with with the right bits?

Anyone got any bad experiences with this crankset?

unless you dont have a truing stand or steady handed wife to hold your wheel.....

go for it and do it yerself, you'll learn an invaluable life skill. Then other people can offer YOU a beer when THEY need a wheel tweaked!!!

cheers dfp. Apologies for not searching properly. I put in 1 cross spoke lacing and couldn't get anything. Thanks for the image though. Very helpful.

I'm probably being a bit gormless, but i am gaving trouble finding the pattern for 1x spoke lacing, even when searching google. Any good diagrams or pics anywhere? Thanks in advance!

Paul

has anyone actually visited sjs?

that must be heavy as hell!!

ok, so i'm just getting my head round all this wheel building stuff, am i right in thinking that the dish in the rear wheel comes mostly from the differing length of spoke (drive and non drive side?) Like, you couldn't achieve the dish required with equal length spokes both sides? and how much dish does it create

er....he said fixie......... shudder.

sorry, it was in fixed gear gallery gems, on page 13!!

thanks magnus, is definately sweet, but not the one i remember. No rack or mud guards. Had cage clips i think, and the view was from the front!!! Ah those rims, mine are waiting at the post office for me! Whats the lacing on the front, single cross?

can someone point me to the page with the sweet black bike and the french style handlebars. My internet is being slow as sin and it's taking me ages to trawl it!!! Can't remember the frame make, but it was sweeeet.

yeah that looks like it would do the job better than the cup version i bought. The wire cup is a little harder to control, as your using it on its end all the time which tends to make it wanna skip around. Thinking i might go in with a medium course flap wheel cos the finish i have now is a little too over worked and it looks a little too polished which wasn't the idea.

I've been thinking about fuming the frame and forks in a bag with some amonia, any one think this is a bad idea for any reason?

speaking of trackstands, many people here eaten it at the lights?!

I think the nice thing about using a wax is that you can restore the finish as often as you like. It doens't appeal to everyone, but to me, being able to wax the frame and remove, or in fact leave any blemishes, is pretty neat. Listen to rpm though, gun blue is not a great idea!!!! I used nitromors and some pretty harsh wire wool, took the paint off a treat. Seriously though wear goggles and gloves cos it will burrrrrrrrrrrrrrnnnnn!!!

This post is becoming interesting, some really inspiring ideas so thanks!!

Definately feeling the aged look. If I go too clean, shiny and smooth with lacquer, it'll look like a shop bought without the stickers, which is fine, but not what i want.

The wire cup in the drill left a pretty nice finish, might just leave it while i build the wheels and see how the surface develops. Glad i managed to save the old carlton badge, it looks sweet against the steel.

cheers smiggie. Gonna try the scotchbrite tomorrow. Quick question about the blueing. Are we talking blue like the actual colour blue?!!! Stupid question, so stupid answer welcome, just wondered though..

Nice answers cheers guys!

clear coat was the original choice, even clear powdercoat, but as this project develops, i think it would be too slick looking for bare steel. I want it kind of raw, so i reckon some wax is the way forward, anything to repel the elements really. Thanks for the link to the john major, just what i was looking for gabes!

cheers

hi guys,

saw a steel frame fixed that was just clear coated and it looked awesome. I've stripped my carlton down the the steel, and have brushed it with a wire cup in a drill and i love the look. Aiming for a really classic vintage feel, just wondered if anyone knows of a good alternative to the clear coat. I'm not too concerned with a finish that needs reapplication every so often. Are ankor wax, and turtle wax my only options? Trawled the internet but might have missed something. I'm guessing it'll be mostly waxes.

Cheers

paul

Vinyl sounds like a good idea, harder wearing and replaceable.

No problem provenrad, i did look, but obviously not hard enough!! Here's a pic of the frame. It was a tough decision wether to strip it or not. But i like things to be just right so i went for a strip and respray. I'm taking a lot of time over the paint job and will hopefully get a classy colour. The original gold orange is well nice!!

cool, got it, Nottingham in april 74. Thanks provenrad and others for help

paul

Ah nicely presented provenrad. Good skills. Thanks alot for that. I think that lays it to rest.

NE 4229704 : Nottingham in April 1974. I missed this on that site so thanks for pointing it out.

Cheers

paul

cheers i'll check that one out.

Mate you wouldn't want a date with this one just yet, i've stripped her down, and she's kinda ungly at the moment... on seconds thoughts....