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Shit man, but your moms not rich and shit, don't forget whats really valued in this country...

Sorry, good point, what was I thinking.

Bless the German mammalian parasites infesting a sizeable fraction of central London, bless them.

Jesus fucking Christ what a fucking hideous display of arrogance, surely the money would be better spent on the epidural my mum has been waiting for over 3 months for, to lower the pain in her back (osteoporosis) to allow her to be mobile again.

Edit: beaten to it by Smallfurry.

If it rocks in the clamp unweighted and slips when it is weighted then I don't think paste is going to solve your problem - a seatpost that fits will though. FWIW i wouldn't sit on anything carbon that moves or has any play in it at all.

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As I understand it, assembly paste is just to stop seizing/minute friction that can damage the parts - not for filling gaps.

It also allows you to lower the pressure applied to carbon parts (indeed all parts) - for example a carbon post without assembly paste might require 12Nm, but with assembly paste it might be only 9Nm (made up figures, but you get the idea).

It also makes removing parts easier, the paste is made from millions of tiny rubber-like balls that compress under pressure increasing grip, but return to a spherical shape when the pressure is removed helping 'roll' the part out.

I have a tube, you are welcome to pop over and smear your shaft.

Whore.

Crispin, no poo, no deal.

God it seems like an argument starts on every thread I start!

gay

having paint missing on your dropouts separates the posers from the hipsters, shows them your a real man.

Possibly the post that makes the point about this thread.

A: If you worry about how your bike looks you are a 'poser'.

B: If you don't worry about how your bike looks you are seen as a 'real man'.

Result, if you want to look cool, option B seems obvious.

To be concerned about the look of something that is rarely appreciated, even by its owner (imo at least), then covered up by axle bolts, would be silly.

Why the fucking interest ?

To realise that you were concerned about the integrity of the frame makes more sense, but like BMMF said, it really isn't a problem

Dreadful low level idiotic non-sequiter and online classic straw man argument.

Gold.

Also, for some kind of bender related reason (im looking at you help!) i cant quote a single post without quoting every post ¬,¬

You dirty dirty.

Whereas I'd find it more satisfying to look at a dirty bike in some contexts e.g. photo of bike before/after Paris-Roubaix. To me, the latter tells a story. This is also why I won't be botoxing my face.

"I'd find it more satisfying to look at a dirty bike"

You might find it satisfying to look at a dirty bike, other might find it satisfying to look at a polished frame from 1932, others still a perfectly formed drop out in pristine condition, and others still a perfect TDF carbon fantasy bike . . . and so on.

The issue is that you ascribe function as the value here, others ascribe form.

^^Masochism? Do you mean in the sense that not attending to how something looks could harm its efficient functioning?

Whoops, sorry BMMF, my spellchecker replaces 'Machismo' with 'Masochism' - : (

I meant 'machismo'.

You go on the classifieds section and a bike with pristine paintwork and decorated lugs will sell for hundreds of pounds more, even if it is the same tubing and lugs underneath.

That has nothing to do with aesthetics and everything to do with investment / trading.

It's just more satisfying to look at a bike that isnt scuffed and scratched. I suppose that's a function.

What function is it !?

I am uncomfortable with the idea that you stick "I suppose" in front of your conclusion, if only because I suspect you don't really agree with what I am saying !

: )

Although I agree wholeheartedly with your point: "It's just more satisfying to look at a bike that isnt scuffed and scratched".

I'm not going to deny their inextricability, but like most things, I think it's a 2-way process.

Well, I am not 100% sure what you are saying, but if I could take the chance to make clear what I am saying, it would be that: when people like how things look, that is often met with a kind of priggish cynicism coupled with a certain masochism. . . which is at odd with how things actually work.

The ways that's phrased makes it sound pretty preclusive i.e. the other facets aren't quickly dismissed etc. I'm sure you're not being deliberating obfuscatory.

deliberating = deliberately (intentionally) ?

Not at all, I am only saying that in my opinion aesthetics is to this day handled poorly by even the most liberal (insert your own position) thinkers.

BTW, there's no confusion on my part over the difference between personal vanity and a mindset that would let preservation of /// form impede lifelong function.

I suppose the conversation really pivots around what we consider that desire to preserve form (or to covet/create/preserve that form) over function to actually be.

My point (not made here very well if at all) is that the gravity/pull towards form is functional.

One facet that's quickly dismissed/casually misunderstood?

"that one facet" doesn't preclude others.

Are you living in an ivory tower?

Yes.

I bet you are, and I bet you worry about how to keep it looking pristine too.

Ouch!

Nylon doesn't even begin to describe your attitude.

No, you are right, it doesn't.

I don't have bearings in my wheels, bearings are for nonces.

Leaning

any guides or techniques to this?

Don't lean so much that you fall over.

Getting a fucking life is the only thing that will work.

Christ, next week, it'll be "my tyres are dirty"

Singspeed, don't listen to these benders, their position is flawed, aesthetics, sensory or sensori-emotional values are, to this day, that one facet of the human condition that is as quickly dismissed as it is casually misunderstood. People like things to look good, it has evolutionary foundations (and practical value) as deep, perhaps deeper, than those other things we might give a free, unthinking, pass to, this worry about other's worrying about insignificant visual detail is an expression of machismo (which in itself is similarly valuable).

Every time someone takes the time to worry about the detail of another man's life and his interests (and to further take the time to complain about the interests of another man) you can pretty much take it as certain that these action carry more about him than you.

I think the main confusion is to mix up the idea that someone could obsess about how something looks with a sense of vanity - ie: it's common for people to struggle to escape the idea that: "I want my bike/car/trousers/house to look good" means anything other than "I want myself to 'look' good.

and slippery

Admittedly it has a stunning coefficient of friction, almost zero stiction as well as numerous other properties, but you can beat a World War 1 rubber gasket off ebay.

gay

Nylon is only the 8th most gay plastic actually.

Getting a fucking life is the only thing that will work.

Christ, next week, it'll be "my tyres are dirty"

The vain protesters shout loudest.

So,

I've finally found a NOS vintage frame in my size at a good price.

It's beautiful, and the paintwork is perfect.

I want to fit a flip flop hub, which will mean removal of the wheel every once in a while.

A lot of track dropouts have a non-paint finish around where the bolt bites so as not to get the dropout ugly looking. Is there anything I can do to cover my forward facing horizontals and prevent the paint chipping off and subsequent rust?

I just don't want to wreck the paintwork when I finally build this up.

Michael

A nylon washer.

You should have turned off auto exposure for the timelapse at the beginning and you wouldn't have got those weird flashes as the light changed...

The problem was not leaving AE on for the time-lapse intro (if it was timelapse?) it was that he used a codec with a long GOP (group of pictures / large amount of frames between key frames), the AE would have handled the gradual change in exposure just fine, the compression settings had no chance.