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Actually is there any decent books that cover riding training regime that you could recommend?

I read a few when running and runners world schedules are great!

I don't see my commute i do as a pootle through the city... id like to think of it as improving my chances to ride further. I terms of ratio and this time of year whats a good size to run?

Obviously city ratio is very different than longer rides... in the city i ride 47-18 its comfortable and not too spinny. Do you go higher or lower for longer distances?

ps thanks for all the advice so far... this is going to be my training bible (thread)

Disengage brain. And go.

Thanks for the advice but my brain is quite useful it keeps me out of trouble. but the go bit makes sense.

and hardening the fuck up/deep end approach/aversion therapy

bleed? you mean fall or pop out of their sockets?

As a side line issue: How anybody cant find anything on this forum is basically a bit dumb... I've been on a few forums before... the search function is amazing. I guess the main issue with people not finding something is often to do with not knowing what they want!

Rides and races and just checked out the Canterbury ride like you say i should just bite the bullet.thanks!

I ride drops... the flexibility of hand positions is crazy. I prefer drops with quite a flat section to it to so no slipping. They are also quite wide i find these better for slight climbs. I think my setup is almost perfect for a longer ride... and i'm quite looking forward to progressing.

As far as richmond park is concerned its about 25miles for me to get there.

i started riding laps of of richmond park as it's only 6 miles away for me, started with 1-3laps now i do 4-6 depending on how much time i have. i now find it easy to do 50 miles so that longer road rides of 60+ aren't so daunting (or knackering).
i recommend good shorts and not carrying a bag if you do those kinds of distances it's much more comfortable. proper bars are much better too as you get to move your hands around a lot and get down on the drops if it's windy or you want to go faster.

endurance is built up by steady 70% output riding. i.e. going as fast as you can but still being able to hold a conversation without interfering with your breathing, if you go balls out fast straight away you will be pooped. hills naturally give you a short intense period to vary your training.
i don't actually see these rides as 'training' it's just the chance to ride more so that on proper rides i'm able to keep up with the geared riders

i've done a bit of running in the past (last year) and that was a similar approach. I even went off the drink (what the fuck) and took it pretty seriously. ie 4:30 wake ups 12 and 3 mile runs...12 jogging (as you say so i can talk) and 3 mile runs.

I entered a race not too shortly after my training, a 10k which i did in 40:41 for my first effort at running i was pretty chuffed... but i think my body is not made for stamina.

welcome to the forum, this appears to abe a refreshingly well though out post so I'll neglect my usual abuse and provide an answer for you.

I fully recommend a course of deep end therapy. Commit to one of the rides, don't worry about it. Eat plently of carbs for a few days before hand and just do the ride.

Most of them aren't manic in pace and to my knowledge we've only ever left 50*14 behind, though to be fair he was taken away in an ambulance).

The rides are always good times and riding in a group you tend not to notice the miles flying by as conversation saps up and emptyness that would be experienced doing it solo. If you don't want to throw yourself straight into one of the intercity rides then may I suggest one of the night rides. These are typically only 20ish miles. You'll likely realise by the end of those that you don't want to stop riding, this is the first sign that you can do longer distances.

Thanks for that...50 14 to me sounds crazy ratio for a long ride, i assume that what that is?

In terms of carbs and other nutritious goodies, i have a very lazy routine when it comes to food i often forget to eat, due to social distractions. I guess i should be taking care of myself a little better. When riding i never feel as though my body needs food etc. but i guess i must know in my brain that i may be close to overstepping my ride length... hence the fear.

You don't have to HTFU so much as just go out and keep riding. Don't go all out, just cruise along, take breaks etc.

You won't hit 16 miles (for instance) and then find you can't go an inch further. When you start slowing down or getting hungry, stop, eat something, drink coffee and/or beer. Start riding again. Easy.

Also

HTFUMF

i think i understand i guess setting achievable goals is probably the way to go... in a way im doing that already.... but as far as pushing myself a little furthur takes a bit of confidence.

if it's worth anything i went from 25/30 miles a pop to 65/70 for the "extended" May Cambridge ride.

I had those kind of thoughts beforehand but in the end I just enjoyed every minute of it.

Wasn't fixed though and yes at times I did freewheel.

yeah appreciate the dive in at the deep end approach...

I want to get to the points where i can comfortably ride those distances when and where i like. Not just a battle between me and the unknown.

Hi all,

Like many before, I have been lurking for a long time now... and seen responses from HTFU, DTM, and TTID (hopefully not the latter) to welcome, hi, and come along!

I do a commute on my fixed bike of about 8 miles a day and ride every day and at any free time possible. Sometimes calling friends that live a little further away so i can ride.

The Question:

How does one progress to ride furthur distances is it a matter of HTFUing or maybe starting a little earlier on my commute adding a little more each day? Or should i just go for it and hook myself on to one of the many rides available... I know im a strong rider i just don't want to fail half way or worse. Any tips on progressing further and further?

Thanks in advance & hi again!

CP

1) Shinscar
2) Stoopsombitch (murtle & jonny)

1) Stoopsombitch (ray, murtle and jonny)
2) Shinscar (yep me ray)

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yeah, dude!!

'the greatest ever trick dark times ever pulled, was to convince the world that he didn't exist.'

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i had enough of his shinanigans.

i met shinscar once, WAC

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Ride him!

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Stoopsombitch

I might head out to the wild, wild west tonight

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Stoopsombitch!

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Stoopsombitch

gee, i get my bitch to take her false teeth out, and clamp the top-tube between her gums.

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Stoopsombitch!