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It seems to me that having the hands a 90 degrees to the top tube i.e. holding the tops of drops, or with straight bars is more likely to give numb hands than riding with hands parallel to the top tube. The only time I suffer numb hands is riding risers. The position is reasonably upright, certainly a lot more upright than when I am riding on the hoods or drops of my road bikes. Therefore, I assume that wrist angle has something to do with it. Gel insert gloves cured the problem.

Also, if you are riding a very stiff track frame this might contribute to the problem. Anyway gel golves did it for me.

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Hi Gabes, yes that was me in De Beavoir Sq. How was the game?

Re. light changing paint paint, this is the prismatic effect pain, also House of Kolor. It definitely sparkles in the sunshine

You are not wrong there.

It looked like it was plugged in to a power adaptor. Is that how it works...and where is it from..??

Have been following the glow in the dark postings in bike porn. I had a HED 3 sprayed with House of Kolor 'Long Glo' paint. Kind of successful, if a bit patchy. You really do need to charge it up quite a lot in strong sunlight for best effect. The good thing about House of Kolor is they have a number of different colour glow paints - I used a blue green. The bad thing is you need a specialist - read expensive - painter to use it.

Has anyone found a really effective/bright and easy to use luminous paint?

Finally, what was the neon seatpost?

Front wheel disk is definitely a no no for riding in any sort of wind. Hed 3 is ok, a bit twitchy when its really blowing. Campag rear discs are super strong, though. They would take even the worst potholes.

Hi Brian, yes it's Tim. I saw you built up the Kuota. Your new ride is looking great, too.

Hello! The FES is back from a respray with Marco at Fully Loaded Cars.He ain't cheap, but he does mental stuff.

p.s. dj'd my heart out for 6 frickin hours at the Smithfield Nocturn. And did one person even mention the music. No!

....none of us need more than a beater. but we like our bikes.[/QUOTE]

It's true, none of us need more than a beater, but we do all love our bikes. I have ridden in London for 30 years, and am totally in love wih bikes. And when an FES in your size comes up on ebay for £300, you would have to be f***ing mad not to buy it.

I do accept the new spray job it has had might not be to everyone's taste, though...

and then i found this, i remember some one saying something about people that buy aero carbon track frames and then ride them on the road, i guess this guy didn't hear about it.

Yes, its mine. Its a carbon monocoque German Sports Institute bike - FES. Used to belong to Jens Fiedler. A bit on the heavy side by todays standards, but totally bullet proof

The handle bars are Yamaguchi. He sells them on his website. Can't find the link right now, but you can Google it. They are custom made in steel to any size you want. Not crazily expensive if I remember.