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I saw someone doing that tossy talk into a phone in your hand thing they do on The Apprentice in real life the other day. Tosser.

Summer of Sam is one of my favourite "real" films. Really, really good. Milk is the only recent film I've seen, it's good (even Sean Penn surprisingly) but it might be a little too preachy-gay.

"The Henry Rollins Show" makes me think of him doing a replacement for "Wogan"

RLJ sticking it to the man suckerz

Hah!

loose

Eek!

Oh my! Have I finally been trolled? I could do with a laugh though.

what? comparing a bank to woolworths? that is definitely some daily mail styled reasoning, but ok.

No, no comparison at all. Both have staff, both have the majority of their staff on relatively low wages. That's how it works.

here's the problem though, when woolworths went bang it was at most a few thousand jobs, many of those unskilled, minimum wage affairs. i'm not saying it's not an awful, sad thing to have happened but in the long run it is not the end of the world. we can, as a country, afford to support those people who lost their jobs until they find new ones (if ever).

25,000 actually, according to the BBC's reporting at the time.

what do you think would have happened if we let northern rock sink, same with RBS. people would have lost everything, not just a job, everything; houses, pensions, savings, investments. thousands of business' would have failed overnight. it would have just snowballed and snowballed.

I'm not entirely convinced that would have been the case with Northern Rock. The bulk of its business is mortgage lending (which was what got it into trouble). Who can say someone else wouldn't have come along and bought it for a penny? You can bet that however it had been handled (and I don't necessarily disagree with how it was, anyway) that noone would have lost their house. A government wouldn't let that happen, it'd be electoral suicide.

the problem doesn't lie with the bailing out of the banks perse, it lies with what the banks then do with the money once they've been bailed out which is why you get OH NOES FRED DA SHRED etc, etc, etc.
you put up a good arguement to support the idea that reverting back to living the lifestyle of the 1300's, (killing animals with our bare hands, bartering with our neighbours, fearing rare and pillage on a daily basis - i don't actually know wtf was going on in the 1300, but anyway..) is the right way to go, but unfortunately i think that capitalism is probably here to stay.

Whoa. I didn't and wouldn't actually say that, cos I'd sound even more of a loon if I did. I think there's a good argument for being honest though and admitting that if the system doesn't work, it needs changing and if the way to do that is nationalising it all then fine, but admit what you're doing and don't pretend it's anything else because you're too scared to use that word.

are you joking?
you must have some understanding or idea as to why the government had to lend the banks money, right?

Because we're completely subservient to a fucked up system which we have to prop up while leaving manufacturing to go to the wall? Woolies worker? Tough for you. Amusing that the companies that are the bastions of capitalism and the people who insist it's the only way are also the people immune to their own survival of the fittest mantra when it all goes tits up.

I am an LFGSS manchester person and wondering if anyone had a place in fairly central london i could leave my bag for a few hours tomorow for the second protest?
i was at the one today in RBS and BofE and left it at my gf's house hwere i can't tomorow, so any helpd? just till about 5?

Probably no use, but if you don't find anywhere and you're in London by train there's a left luggage place at Euston station - "Excess Baggage Company"

Anarchy is a complex theory based on a positive perception of human nature, not growing dreadlocks, dancing to Drum and Bass and putting a brick through the odd window.

I think I'm in love...

ww - new avatar? why the change?

It's because your parents fuck you up. They might not mean to, but they do.

Funny that. I remember the government saying that fuel prices were going up. The public said no. The goverment said yes. The public said no. Government said yes. The public brought things to their knees. The planned price hike was canceled.

And it's not that long ago that the poll tax hoohah killed Thatcher.

Faith changes nothing.
Governments make the changes and always will...rioting and demonstrating only creates headlines.
If you want to beat the man....it takes EVERYONE coming together for the same thing....and everyone wants different things...and most don't have a clue what they actually want.
How many people there today even had a fucking clue what they were actually fighting for or how to achieve the end result they think they want?

Keep your Faith.

Ouch, that's a bit pessimistic, probably realistic though. Things have been changed in the past, take the suffragettes and the chartists for example. They did know what they want though, so that's a good point you've got there.

Also they were at times when the country was slowly moving towards the left - this thread reinforces my belief that at the moment it's slowly moving towards the right.

remind me, which means you're gay, earing on the left or right? :P

Ignoring the magic absolution smiley, which probably means this was a lead-in to a "tops are gay" joke... I thought (hoped) that this sort of bollocks and earrings having meanings etc. had disappeared since I was a kid and checked what side had what "meaning" when I got mine pierced so people would (wrongly) think I was straight.

You might have been joking, but I bet you have no idea how combinations of seemingly little trivial things like that can combine to seriously screw up large chunks of people's lives. You might not have been trying to be offensive but perpetuating shit like that just isn't funny sorry, or at least I don't think so.

Time, timey time time

Half twelve!

That looks like a Time cleat

Umm, utter thread reply fail. Oops. So, err, yeah - embrace the flourescent nodders, and just think "they make me look even cooler".

Ahem.

+rep +stuff. If you're not looking for a fight, don't bang on someone's window, even if they have just really pissed you off.

Sorry, we'll stop badgering you.

I'm beavering away trying to think of a pun that'll get a seal of approval.

Having said that, I do have an irrational fear (?) of minicab drivers. Combination of being in the back of one in the middle of the night and knocked a pedestrian down, and having an old man who's a cabbie (not in London, before the lynch mob starts...)

no, it appear that the bad apples I encounter seemed to be at least 40+ (white van, taxi, etc.), and nearly always appear to be on a nervous breakdown.

It's gonna depend on what most people on the road are, surely? e.g. round here it's boy racers to watch out for, in the city it'll be older people...

Report it and Report and Report it to the police

Sooner or late it appears as a hot spot on their crime map

It probably already does:

http://www.met.police.uk/crimefigures/
http://maps.met.police.uk/

Otter pornwear? I could be up for that.

releasing the morning otters!

Is that a new euphemism I've not come across before?

Smoke indoors. Not cos I think it should be hidden or I really give a shit, but I'm weird and hate the smell of it, which is pretty hypocritical being a (tobacco) smoker

I'm probably going to the Rhythm Festival and meet my father and aunt there, not too sure about the music though - it's an old man's festival, but then I am an old man

My first ever spotted post, coo...

wiganwill, yesterday at lights on Charing Cross Road, looking a little cheesed off and, well, working.
(I recognised the bike from on here months ago, how sad is that? Especially when I can't remember what I had for breakfast or if I need to go to the toilet)