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NCAP standards cover injury to people outside vehicles as well as inside - which is why you can't get old school bullbars anymore.

G-wizz vehicles are built to no standards whatsoever. Would they hurt you more in a crash? no one knows

I'm no defender of 4x4s. Driving pretty-ed up farm vehicles around city centres doesn't make any sense. I'm just saying that driving something that has been constructed to exploit loopholes and avoid safety regs doesn't make a whole bunch of sense either.

without meaning to sound a cunt, is the last comment about being built to exploit loopholes based on fact?

I find it hard to beleive that the laws-that-be allow something on the road that has no safety tests or crash testing. Surely, if "they" have outlawed bullbars on H&S grounds, then they have outlawed other non-safe vehicles and equipment too?

I'd prefer to be hit by a G-Wiz doing 40 than a 4x4 doing 30 anyday. If they bonnet bends the way described, at least there's some 'give' in it, unlike the inch thick armour a Jeep Cherokee offers it's inhabitants

its still on come one come all, and Jol, im Chris CRASH and even i dont have a problem with the cobbles... lay of the pre-ride booze

haha

Ironic, since you turned up to the ride self-proclaimed pished and then nearly crashed about 2 mins into it! haha

Good to meet you dude

I got there late, but was good to meet a few faces on here, Chris, Mash, Frank et al.

dude in a green hoody on a white Gazelle at Grays Inn road / Theobalds Road junction at about 7.50 this morning. I followed you down onto High Holborn

sounds like the perfect hackers tool

I don't know many scrabble-playing bike thieves

You mean you know some bike theives that don't dig word-associated board gamage?

Severely gutted I missed this, was having up in Morecambe at the time. Looks like a laugh and will be there for the next one, work permitting.

Hope to see some of yous tonight in Covent Garden

is he on crack?

I think it was called "Dead Peds & The 4-Way Eggpie Menace", or something like that.

I've just spat tea all over my laptop. Thanks BMMF :-)

not only did he beat them, he thrashed them by a whole 2 seconds!

that was some serious kerb......

to be fair, you can see pretty much from one end to the other anyways, so I'm sure you'll see a bunch of dudes and wheels. just ride up and down it until you see peeps! lol

let's face it, most people would use swear words anyway

will be there for a bit of the ride, then have to go and do some shit, then will meet you all for a scoop after.

And there was me thinking it was just my face that they objected too (not that much though, they were pleased enough to get my dough). Sorry to hear of your bad experiences too 20. By the way, I have deleted my post for various reasons, mainly due to it may have coming across a bit strong (there were no embelishments, but may not be the best of tones for an open forum). Those that read it and responded, you know my thoughts of the place....

Sweet, I'm all over it now. Thanks for the help.......

twas indeed a good night. Met some people, drank some beer, held my own on the rollacoaster and generally had a bit of a laugh. Catch you all again soon, still not sure whether or not I'll be in town for Sat night, but if I am, then I'll be there.

pm sent Otts

Sweet. Finishing work in about 20 mins, and have to go and sort something out, but would love a scoop in a bit. Otter, may I pm you my blower and you can text or give me a bell telling us where you yous going to be?

this a private party or can anyone come and meet all yous suckers?

I've been using a Steel-O-Flex for years with my fairly expensive mountain bike, leaving it all over London after nights on the booze (even left it in Camden on the high street for two days after starting a bender there! - ah, the heady days of student life) and my bike was fine, the lock didn't even look as though it had been touched. This isn't to say that it survived anything, but it almost certainly put off potential scumbags. Have transferred it's use to my fixed now, although am severly tempted to get a Kyrptonite NY to accompany it. But God they're heavy.

+1

their moral guardian or whoever is loco parentis outside of school hours?

Yeah, I blame the shit train service in this country too

that's the one

Saw the sickest, neon-agogo thing yesterday being pushed up Brick Lane, about 2pm while I was waiting for mine to be bolted together. Pretty sure I'v seen a picture of it on this forum somewhere, but can't seem to find it anywhere now to find out who it belongs to.

Yellow frame and seriously loudness all over.

Sweet