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EAST/Assoc. debate continued here:
http://www.lfgss.com/thread38228.html
Any related posts in this thread will be deleted or moved to the above, appropriate thread.
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So chatting with a few people yesterday, it seems we should aim to all be there at 9am, and the sweeping crew earlier. We need to secure both courts for the day, and Hops was saying there's been a lot of footie players there recently, so we need to get in before hand.
It would be worth putting up notice signs of what's going on in advance and on the day. We did that last year along with lists of nearby courts. It helped with the explanation when the cops came down and camped out first thing in the morning...
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Names are definitely needed. Hassan owes me a face..
Stitches for Mike (Tomasito?)
The Hand of Dan (Gravity is a harsh Mistress.)
Stitches for eggpie. (Hassan > hooked mallets > face > ambulance )
Stitches for 'otters - DT, the vicious hater of valentines day.
Objects collar bone (Yorgo, stop apologising)
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Oh, and to give my opinion to the questions asked.
It's ultimately the players responsibility to have a safe mallet as we are still a sport governed by the players.
According to insurance purposes though, in the result of an injury it would probably be the event organizer's responsibility. The ref's have no legal responsibilities and no formal training. -
At the euro's those safety rules were enforced. I know of two players that were handed bar plugs and one player had to remove a disc that was made of aluminum that was peeling up revealing sharp edges.
I don't recall any mallet issues we had though. We were mostly concerned with splintering wood and shattering epoxy/fiberglass. A screw protruding from the mallet head could fall under safety hazard...
edit* - looking at the closeup pic of that example above doesn't show a sharp screw-end, just bolts and a screw-head. I don't see anything wrong with it.
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;1211497']Todd- Hackney E9
Gormley - Southwark se5
Rik - Hackney N16
Aidan - SE19
Rupert - Hackney N16 MOTHER FUCKER
Horatio - TH E1
James - Crackney e9
max - V5L dammit!
sludge packer - N1
Mike - E9
Roxy - E9moog - Hillingdon UB8 =[
Gabes N16
JOL - Collingwood 3066 (Damn, country fail.)
Lebowski - E1Moog, you fucked up the rotation...
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Those dates seem to be the best options to vote on.
So shall we vote on one of those weekends in April once everyone's had a chance to see them proposed?
Yea, a LPC poll and an announcement/new sticky in main forum with this info in it. (If you're not signed in, you don't see the LPC latest post at the top of the main forum...)
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In a sense, that's the point I was getting at. All these exceptions to like-to-like. If we start seriously sorting out what your bike can and can't be used for, A) it can greatly advance the standard rules away from ambiguity, and B) make for a safer game.
I don't think you can do it half-assed and start allowing some stuff without dis-allowing other stuff.
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i'd build it symmetrical, a few mil off on chainline won't be a huge deal.
But if you want it dished you should be able to get away with it with the spokes you already have, you'll just have to tension the drive side a couple of turns more than the non-drive.
In this case though, wouldn't it be the other way around? Tension non-drive side more?
I think I'm re-convinced not to go BMX hub route...
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Here's another problem I have with involving your bike in playing the ball.
offensive player has the ball and charging on goal, defensive player can hook the offensive players mallet to prevent a hit on goal. If the offensive player can hit the ball with his wheel to score then what's stopping the defensive player from using his wheel to stop the offensive player from getting a hit on goal? Considering that we're talking about front wheel hits, then this almost guarantees that the offensive player goes down due to purposeful bike-to-bike contact very similiar to a 'T-bone'.
The argument about less rules means to me that if you just disallow the maneuver then you don't have make a rule saying you can score with your wheel only after a 'hit' and then keep one rule about like to like contact and then make an exception to it effectively creating two seperate rules. So IMO three rules are needed to make this play fair.
Remember Jack from Sick Buckets and his concept of bike-to-bike?
If using your wheel more and polo becomes more radball oriented, in a worse case scenario, I predict that you'll see more plays, like, this. (yes, poor example but best images I have of gray-area bike to bike contact) -
Sorry, Oliver. There were more than 140 non-relevant posts with a handful of relevant posts, they all got moved.