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it's all yours Cheesecake, as long as your friend doesn't sell it on straight away! hope it's of use. will check pm

ELSWICK CHARISMA MIXTE ROAD FRAME c1980
Elswick Charisma frame. very nice. it has some scratches but has cleaned up well. Needs new headset bearings. also the BB axle is locked up, so needs junking.

Seat Tube ctt: 21in
27 inch wheels seem to fit fine, but will probably take 700c with long reach brakes.
pretty mixte road frame 60 posted

KONA AA FRAME in silver. It's too big for me and is just sitting in my garage doing nowt. It has a tiny little line in the weld which might be a 2mm hairline crack, or might be absolutely nothing. I don't know it's history and have never ridden it.
FREE in exchange for a good bottle of bordeaux! (not a 5 quid bottle from the esso garage!) based near haslemere.

i also have a birmalux 27.2 period seatpost and brooks b17 if you're interested. again, would be a great match for the bike.

i have some perfect bars for your bike, and stem. see ebay 'GB Ventoux bars' and 'track drop stem'.... I also have some BB axle bits that might match skullys axle. stay in touch.
I also have some very lovely airlite flipflop large flange hubs on wolber rims, correctly laced 3x and 4x. clinchers....not sure if i want to sell them though, will drink some booze tonight and think about it.

aero spokes are SO 2007, 90's carbon roadbikes are where it's at now!

does lug cutouts mean super-record? mine looks damn similar to the one here being sold, but a little scruffier, solid lugs...only had it a couple of weeks

who made the frame? does it have any markings on dropouts or bb shell

i forgot to get some at ripley. does anyone fancy selling some white ones...or black i guess. prefer white.

blimey, these chaps from the Netherlands have seen a fantastic opportunity selling 80's racing bikes to london... 1990's triathlon bikes will be the next big thing!

anyone got one knockin about?

like this

http://yfrog.com/n9mavic918at090718p

"surfing. I suggest everyone to learn and you will be hooked unless you are dead."

if you "don't have lots of spare time" why take up cycling as a hobby ? that's ridiculus. you'll be needing some spare time to cycle your bike!

i've got fishfingers beans and chips for tea.

.....but i'm not talking about specialised langsters etc Glow, i';m talking about there being no market for companies that will sell you old road frames with cheap bits on! it's fine for these companies to exist, but blo0dy hell, it doesn't take much effort to do exactly what they're doing and you'll save your hard-earned - you'll be doing it yourself, you'll save money, therefore you'll have MORE MONEY for nicer parts!! and therefore HAVE A NICER BIKE! ..
"odd chainline issues, weird and seized bottom brackets, messed up threads" people speak about bike parts like they're some kind of magical mystery..."Plus they've got all the tools and loads of knowledge" !! all the knowledge you'll ever need is 5 seconds away on the net. It's not hard to replace a BB, or sort out a chainline

"It obviously is, otherwise there would be no market for selling bikes, of any kind"
but there IS no market ! the vast majority of fixed gear bikes have been put together by their owners because it's so simple and enjoyable. there are only a handful of companies like that about, for a reason. But good luck to them if people want to pay over the odds for a plain 80's roadframe with a powdercoat and toptube pad!
"Plus they've got all the tools and loads of knowledge." for the price you'll get charged for bicycle assembly, you could buy the few simple tools you need. I really don't get it...

aren't 'fixedgearlondon' just some blokes, that throw bikes together? i don't understand why you can't do what they do, for free? it's like they're viewed almost as a real brand. good luck to them though, they're capitalising on people's desperate need to get a fixed gear bike as soon as they can.
Just wait for a frame to come along, on ebay, on the cycling plus/bikeradar forum, in your local free ads, and build it up yourself! it's not difficult.

here's some more info. if you can find the serial number (BB shell or dropouts maybe?) then you'll be able to tell
if it's an EG Bates or a Bates of Westcliffe...it looks early like an EG.

http://hometown.aol.co.uk/reclassicbikes/Bates_Cantiflex_Home.html

hubs could also be bayliss wiley flip flops. hope you keep it and enjoy it...

it's English yes...you'll find the guys at the V-cc very useful for information about it.
http://www.v-cc.org.uk/
http://www.classiclightweights.co.uk/
I really hope you don't strip it and junk all the parts as it is a beautiful period bike and many of the parts are valueable even though they might have a little surface rust (surface rust doesn't nessarily mean that the part needs to go in the trash). The cranks are chater lea and are beautiful and quite rare/valuable....the hubs might be airlite's under all that grime. how about asking the veteran cycle club about the best way to restore it, and clean/service all the parts and keep it together....