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Most of the ebay links from the other threads are now dead, so hard to find a guide...

(and I did search under 'Whitcomb' rather than 'Whitcombe"!)

I have just seen a Whitcomb track frame for sale in a LBS and am wondering what is a good price to offer - does anyone have any ideas?

It is a fully chromed columbus track frame, 120mm dropouts... In good nick as far as I could tell.

Asking price was £300, but I think I could bargain down...

A few years ago my then-girlfriend was hit by a car that raced a red crossing Upper Street. It was 1.30 am, on New Years Day - three of us were walking back from a New Years Eve party. Luckily, she was only badly bruised...

I got the plate of the car, and one of the witnesses was an off-duty police woman walking back from her shift.

We were taken to hospital by an un-marked police car (it happenend to be the first on the scene). We gave statements in A and E.

And we never heard anything ever again. A couple of phone calls to the Police got fobbed off... and that was that.

So, it isn't just cyclists... When it comes to peds, the police are as incompetent.

The word on the street is that Gazelle also used to make bikes under license for raleigh, some for export to the US

In the past I have had a series of distasteful encounters with the police - but none, I hasten to add, whilst cycling.

I have an old school friend who became a copper, and on a stag do he recounted some of the things they get up to - "we got him in the back of the van, and just all piled in.." sort of story. My opinion of the police was low anyway, but some of the things he was saying made me feel sick.

Being given a uniform, and powers over the rest of society, seems to warp the human mind.

That said, I am sympathetic to what TallSam is saying. There seems to be quite a bit of "I was riding along, listening to my iPod, along the pavement, through a red light and a Pig stopped me! Who'd have thunk it!" on this thread.

What time is the show on, Cyclodelic?

Sounds fun...

edmundane does anyone still feel that there's a need for that new so-called "careless driving" after reading the above?

WRT the last paragraph - and if I understand it to mean the negligence does not have to be 'gross' in terms of driving a car - then no. And if you are a truck driver looking for papers and you kill a cyclist then it you should be prosecuted...

Damn you scott... thought I'd got away with that.

egg/face/petard/hoisted.

I think you're joking.

Tsk.

(if there is one thing that curvy naked models like, it's good grammar)

No... but that was sort of the point I was making... there are degrees.

In response to

"surely Careless Driving IS dangerous driving"

I was trying to say... well... no, I don't think it is.

Okay... but I am sure there are times when I have not indicated, not mirror-signalled-manouvered because of carelessness - and got away with it because the streets were empty or whatever. If (god forbid) I caused a death, should I really be treated the same as someone who was speeding, or drove through a red light?

The same with cyclists riding on the pavement. Sure it is fine... until you hit someone.

I know that the police are inconsistent, as are judges and most of all juries, but the law shouldn't be.

Exactly... as highlighted by Kathy and Elizabeth's current situation in The Archers...

...

I'll get my coat.

dt Killer drivers could avoid jail

"Where the level of carelessness is low and there are no aggravating factors, even the fact that death was caused is not sufficient to justify a prison sentence."

i wonder, if the person killed was a family member of who ever is behind this, would they still feel the same?

Hmmm... that is sort of why the law is impartial (and why the statue of justice is blindfolded) - so that personal feelings are not considered.

After all, if a toddler ran into the road in front of my bike, and I caused them injury, the last person whose opinion I would want on the situation is the toddlers mother.

My reading of it is quite different.

At the moment there are two offences - "Careless Driving" and "Dangerous Driving".

This adds a 'middle' offence of "Death by Careless Driving" - the penalties of which are midway between the two.

The thing is that I am a cyclist who also sometimes drives a car... so this new offence does seem quite sensible. The debate in the media seems to be about the lowest penalty for causing death by careless driving. It is worth noting that the maximum term is five years, which again seems about right.

aidan just reading this is making me really angry.....i want to punch people in Hampstead!
rob:your not the only one....when i was going to junior school i had to work 2-3 miles each way.its not the attitude of the children its the parents....walking that distance to school taught me a good lesson....HTFU!!!!

I used to cycle to school ;-)

Momentum [quote]ro-LAND Does anyone have a spare threaded 1 1/8" fork lying around - preferably in chrome/silver.

Will pay cash money....

1 1/8" threaded? Are you sure? They're very rare and were only really made for mountain bikes for about six months in the late 80s. Almost all threaded forks are 1", so if you want to convert a 1 1/8 threadless bike to threaded then you're out of luck. Better just accept that bike technology moved on for a reason and that threadless has its advantages.

If you just want a new fork to replace a threaded one then you are looking for 1", but you need to measure the steerer tube too so you get one that's a similar length.[/quote]

Doh... of course. All apologies... Was getting my measurements confused. The fork I have is threaded, but the stem is seized. The guy who sold it to me has just hacksawed through the stem, and I can't shift it...

Long story, but I am after a standard threaded fork.

Does anyone have a spare threaded 1 1/8" fork lying around - preferably in chrome/silver.

Will pay cash money....

Cheers Jake... Good call, but unfortunately it still doesn't give enough clearance.

Looks like a trip to Brixton... or Edwardes...

The slot is too narrow.

I am worried about taking the thread off the axle...

Right... Here's one I haven't come across before.

The dropouts on my Carlton Frame are too narrow for the hub axle/spindle on my Campag hubs.

Is there a way round this? Ideas are:

1) Bending out the dropout to widen the gap

2) Drilling and then filing the dropout

Anyone else had to deal with this?

A blue 531 ride with stubby risers overtaking me on Dog Kennel Hill, turning left onto Coldharbour Lane...

Rider was with lid and headphones, and studiously oblivious to my stares...

dogsballs the pug in question above for me, had french crank arms, but it still had an english BB. so did peugout make bikes in the UK with some french parts still?! seems weird though to have a BSA BB and it looked and felt like it had been in since new. also roland, another quality carbolite frame :(

The Chrome Carlton 531 is on its way! Watch this space...

I have a (now infamous) 80s Touring Pug Carbolite frame - and believe me it don't get better than that.

I have got through two BBs, and both times it was quite a straightforward job. The first time, I just took the old one into my LBS and they brought out a new. The second was done by a different LBS as part of a service.

No problems on either.

bump - apologies

Was in a LBS last week, and asked after fixed/track Hubs - out of interest more than anything...

He whipped out a quite angular 'Quando' hub, that I had not come across before. Seemed competitively priced - less than GoldTec... Any experience anyone?

(I note above that someone said that Quando are behind System Ex et al, but the styling of this seemed quite different...)

Grace Under Pressure - Elbow. On a loop. It was a sh1tty weekend, and this is helping.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mk-RpmmL4Es