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well, the £17 one was the one first offered, mind you, and the £10 one i didn't see until today. just sayin'.

Nicholas I got a rubber hammer, placed my wheel over the fork and hammered the fucker in.
Worked out nicely.

my rubber mallet lost some of it's skin, and so did i. there were all kinds of acrobatics, let me tell you. the filing was definitely necessary.

OH-- and btw-- my eyeballed wood-plank DIY cold-setting was confirmed a-ok! :)

OKAY.
here's the score: the chain was not NJS--my mistake. however, it was a chain that they were selling for £17.
i was surprised that the very absolute cheapest chain that they had was £10. i guess i just did not realize how expensive a basic chain from a shop would cost, as so far, i've sourced my bits off ebay and online stores, and prior to this bike, it was mostly 2nd hand or discounted stuff in the U.S., so hey, what do i know?
i will say that i was trembling when i handed over my charge card, as everything cost significantly more than i would have imagined, and i felt a bit of a sucker.

hippy
Restoration projects are for old men :P

my inner old man suffered a heart attack.
partly because of the cost, and partly because these new bits aren't fitting my "vision".
anyway, what's done is done, and at least i have a rideable bike now. and the new brakes do work better than any brakes i've ever had on any of my bikes in the past.

on a happy note: this bike is also more nimble than any other i've ever had, and riding it for the first time today was pretty thrilling.

anyway, it's time for my nightly horlicks and metamucil (devils advocaat's giving me heartburn!)

stompy (I get lost easily).

haha, me too! ...let's hope we'll get some more people to join us... ;)

well, i'm in bethnal green, so somewhere near there would be sweet. i'd be fine w/making the polo grounds as the start point, too... shrug

"...coffee in a cup,
Little fuzzy pups,
Bourbon in a glass, and grass"

Looks good. Don't love that space much, but hey, they book good stuff.

Anyone interested in a convoy from the East to the starting point?

Conan wow someone just said Lungfish, well done sir impecible taste. Are you a fan of Daniel Higgs solo too, he's playing in London again soon gonna be amazing!

Ooooh! Details, please!!! Last saw him/Lungfish play a few years back at thee parkside in S.F.; very good show.
Solo stuff's really sweet. (Only heard Ancestral Songs). Would most definitely be up for it. Definitely.

Update: After much deliberating, I filed the fork ends. Am VERY excited. Sat on my bike, and rolled forwardsbackwardsforwards in my flat. Walked down to get new brake callipers, and a chain. Figured it couldn't hurt to have them double check my handiwork...

They wanna sell me a NJS chain, and as much as I like those darling little K's stamped on 'em, I just can't really justify the cost. Then they started going on about the (seriously negligible; like less than 0.2 mm) play in my bottom bracket, and I had to state a couple of times that; play or no; I really didn't want them poking around in my bottom bracket, which is practically hermetically sealed. Not to mention, I don't want to pay for it. Then they tried to tell me that I need new crank arms, which I also really do not want. Then they wanted me to write down my maximum bduget, and I told them that I was already over budget, and that I understood that I would need certain components (brake liner, callipers, etc.), and that I do not have a "maximum budget" but will pay only what I find reasonable price-wise per part.
BUT they seemed nice, and I need help with the brakes, so I've left my bike there overnight 'til the a.m., when I will go back to hover while they work (I told them I wanted to watch).
(ranting, sorry).
Can we just say: I am having severe seperation anxiety. SEVERE.

Anyway, thanks a bunch for the input; I got a wicked high slipping those wheels in.

Lungfish

Some friends and I once set up a table/camping stove in the middle of the road down which a (okay, only 12k) race was running. We fried bacon (which you could smell for blocks) and offered it to the runners. We also took turns brandishing long bamboo poles (à la fishing poles) from which dangled doughnuts. It was surprising how many people actually indulged (mostly the laggers at the back; I imagine the more serious runners were tortured by the bacon smells, even if they didn't partake). Good fun, until the second time the police came.
The priceless moment that we sadly did not catch on camera: dangled doughnut from pole over the head of motorcycle cop AND HE BIT! :)

supposedly the police are doing weekly raids on unlicensed sellers, and (in addition to their "crime prevention" stand) have set up a regular stall nesr Sclater Street to sell off some of the bikes that they'd normally sell at auction (and those they've reclaimed from theives), and i guess are hoping that their presence will help discourage the illegal traders.

Scotchgard? Some other fabric sealant?

OK, I am now very much leaning towards filing the axle (thanks, leeww), but am wondering why TheBrick(Tommy) seems more inclined towards plan filing the fork ends? It'll be quicker, yes, but irreversible... Any more input before I start grinding? Thanks y'all.

goddamn it, i'm cooking dinner!

never heard him before...just looked him up...looks good...where's the show?

tallsam

Listening to Benga now. He's playing here 7 days from today so might go see him.

Looking good, Leeww.
Though I'm a little sad that you did away with that badass so-ugly-it's-awesome can-opener chainguard...or have you? can't tell-- did you remove if the braze on for it?

oh? Boy Butter? Cos anything else is probably water-based, and not a good idea unless you're using a prophylactic. Rust, y'know?
http://www.boybutterlubes.com/

vegansdontneedgears .. or just use some of the pile of sexual lubricant i have sitting around

hrmmm.. Well, I managed to get the wheels mostly on. It's a pre-war Hetchins. I was surprised that this is an issue (the axle thing) Trying to leave as much intact as possible, so now the debate is, if i can't fit the wheels safely, do i a.) file/have filed, or b.) blow a wad on some Hardens. Thing is; as much as I'd like to have it professionally restored some far off day in the future; I just want to RIDE it! I've gone over my current budget already, and I JUST got my wheels... hrmm. Worried that if I file it, I defile it. And I'm not sure I should defile those nice tight ends!
what to do, what to do...? :/

Momentum What kind of frame is it? Some Keirin frames are spaced 110 at the back and also take 8mm axles instead of the standard 10mm. Have you got calipers or a ruler to measure the wideth of the dropout slot? If it's much less than 10mm then you will either need to file the frame or find special hubs if you don't want to file. If the frame is of value to you then I would get the filing done by a framebuilder or reputable shop rather than doing it yourself.

a very good anthem: 'Do The Whirlwind', as remixed by Safety Scissors

leeww [quote]le car Architecture in Helsinki (from Australia!)
video

the first ones were ace !

to clarify: it's not the hub width that seems to be the issue-- it's the axel diameter that's causing me grief (or rather the slot where the axel ought fit). cheers.

YES! exactly! originally 95mm fork/110 mm rear dropout. washer's taken care of. tried the hand-flexing, no go. tried calling my nearest shop; fully booked for aaages. SO, i went about cold setting with a 2"x3". nearly there, but not quite. frustration mounting, tried some unorthodox methods (have some strange scratches on my neck to prove it). thing is, it's like the notches-- the very fork ends-- are too narrow for the axle. do you think that widening the dropouts further will help, or should i stop while i am ahead? is there a way to widen those notches? i think i saw something about filing them somewhere, but am not sure about it...

Hovis Brown Currently listening to "Angels of Light" and their album "We Are Him". brilliant.

Ooh, good stuff; saw them play w/Devendra Banhart 3? 4? years ago; Micheal Gira is one intense dude.

I am currently reliving my youth with Archers of Loaf (one album after another, cos it's Saturday night.) Guided By Voices comes next...

What can be done when one's fork ends are too tight/too narrow to accomodate the axle?