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£79+12 P&P is a bargain if you compare it with this at nearly £350: http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/PLUM-Vainqueur-track-pista-frame-Campagnolo-AS-NEW_W0QQitemZ220132609908QQihZ012QQcategoryZ98084QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
the pics seems to be have been removed, but it's a trad euro style steel track frame.
I saw this frame as a complete bike at a jumble, somebody bought it for £300, and now the frame and all the parts are being sold separately, like the cranks:
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Stronglight-Mygal-track-pista-fixed-gear-cranks-165mm_W0QQitemZ220133392413QQihZ012QQcategoryZ109118QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
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I know "londonfgss" probably can’t be changed, but can’t the title at the top of every page be changed to "London fixed wheel and single speed"?
Reasons:
The UK has a long and proud tradition of fixed wheel cycling going back to the early 20th century and further. This website is a part of and is a continuation of that fine tradition, and not some fashion accessory fad bandwagon jumping messenger hipster Yank dood wanabee. Oops might be mistaken about that last sentence:-)
Ray Booty rode the first under 4 hour 100 mile time trial on a "fixed wheel", not "fixed gear".
Ask any UK club cyclist what’s a "fixed gear", the answer won’t be a fixed wheel.
"Fixed gear" will only be the thin end of a wedge, next it'll all be downhill with "high flange", "Campy" etc.
It'll distance ourselves from the mistake idea that "fixed gear" = track bike.
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Good point about the dented right chainstay, I forgot about that, thanks for mentioning it! 120mm maybe is the current track standard, but other widths have been used in the past. Anyway you generally only have to spring or coldset if you're using frames and hubs from different eras, or if you're converting a frame.
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"sometimes with a frame designed for gears the stays don't spring evenly, so your non-dished track wheel will be out of track"
Whether a frame is designed or freewheel or fixed is not relevant if the the stays don't spring evenly, there's nothing special about a fixed frame that'll ensure that the stays will spring evenly. Also if the stays don't spring evenly, the wheel will be slightly out of track, and the chainline might be slightly off too, but the amount of dish on the wheel has nothing to do with it. Wheels built with some track hubs, eg Campag, do have dish because the left flange is quite close to the left locknut.
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I don't see the appeal of Japanese keirin frames myself, I suspect people in the US go for them mainly for snob value, because they're relatively rare as there's a limited supply of them, and they're hard to get hold of and expensive as well. The funny thing is course these frames are exact copies of European track frames from 20-30 years ago, it's not like there's anything particularly distinctive about them, except they've been built by a NJS builder. The whole NJS thing is complete nonsense anyway.
I would choose a 70s or 80s Euro track frame over a keirin frame any day, or go custom build, both will be a lot cheaper. The whole point in getting a custom frame is that you'll get exactly what you want, so if you want fag paper clearances, steep angles, no brake hole etc, that's what you'll get, plus you also get to choose the colour, tubing, lugs etc.
Isn't that the Campagnolo Cambio Corsa? It's not fixed, it's not even ss.
I think it's a bit of myth that tour riders ever used fixed, the flipflop hubs would have been ss on both sides.