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"do you just red lights?" - Aidan you make no sense. Go and think about what you've done.

Just double checked. I'm afriad it's right. The only thing I didn't mention is that all new bikes must be sold with bells, though they can legally be removed once you own the bike. Craziness.

bracestower Am I mistaken, or is brakeless riding already technically regulated in that a bike is supposed (by law) to have two braking mechanisms?

I may be wrong though...

Legally speaking you're quite right. Bikes should have two seperate braking mechanism, minimum handlebar width of 350mm (Though that's from memory so may not be the exact figure) And if it's dated after 1985 a rear red reflector and amber reflectors on the pedals.

Not likely to happen really...

Apologies, but back to the topic of Archie's Grobags.
I had a proper look at Smeear's on Saturday. I'm ridiculously impressed by the quality and the thought that's gone into the product.

Damn fine job Scottnotscot. Now to wait for an excuse that justifies me buying a new bag.

runcible rakan Yes every sunday kinda 1pm ish onwards same place

When are you swopping to the new court?

Yes.

I've got Monika, Sarah and Emily.
Katie's part built now too.

+highfive+

*I hate accountants.

@Wayne. Hit me with some info and I'll see what I can tell you, I'm a Management Accountant (Read CUNT) but should be able to at least point you in the right direction.

eyebrows [quote]kilgore_trout [quote]Object17 [quote]BRM666 [quote][quote]RPM don't shoot the fakenger.

Great line.[/quote][/quote]

T-shirt! Spoke cards![/quote]

stickers![/quote]

OR better: transfer tattoos- for that true fakenger look! yay![/quote]

With stick on piercings to complete the look.

edmundane tange PLAIN GAUGE tubing. what d'you expect? i have a feeling my pug geared road bike would be lighter :P

That'd explain it.

Please can we continue the brake/less debate for longer. I think there's someone at the back who hasn't quite been bored to tears yet?

Picked the Titanium one up at the bike show to feel the weight, damned heavy was the answer.
The guy swears it was all due to the wheels but I wasn't impressed.

Two and a fixed drivetrain, or does he have a parachute in a backpack?

BRM666 [quote][quote]RPM don't shoot the fakenger.

Great line.[/quote][/quote]

T-shirt! Spoke cards!

velocity boy
That's nothing. I've ridden with a brake for over a year now. And before that, I had TWO brakes. You can count 'em if you like.

I own a mountain bike which still has two brake. Do I win?

Apologies Peejay, the lack of sleep over the weekend, mixed with caffeine withdrawal has dulled my sense.

Firstly, to ensure I highlight you of my stupidity, what's the "C+ RLJ debate"?
Secondly, I'm sure most people will end up with brakes, it's the minority that don't when they're unskilled that I worry about. The last thing that we need is more bad press for doing something we love.

atomic.a Object17 I work for http://www.barworks.com have a look and let me know which one is closest to where you work/live and I will leave the pedals there for you next week.

"Two floors" on Kingly Street would be ideal. Email me object17 at gmail dot com if not and we can arrange a meetup.

SMEEAR i forced myself to keep a brake for at least a year, that and being able to easily skid stop/skip with either foot forward.
i said once i had mastered this i would bin the brake, i ended up ditching the brake a few months shy of a year cause i felt confident in my ability
Just done the maths. It was 9 months I rode with a brake.

peejay78 "(I've ridden BMX and mountain bikes seriously for over a decade, I know how to control a bike regarding spatial awareness, positioning, etc so it's not like I don't understand how to control a bike)."

er...

it's not rocket science.

I'm not saying it is, however, my point is that many of the people who seem to be buying into the fixie-craze are not cyclists. They're people jumping on a bandwagon and just don't have the confidence that a background in cycling provides.

Hutch
I am also a climber and am constantly amused at the number of climbers who ride fixed - if you go to the Castle or Mile End around 1/2 the bikes parked up are fixed. That includes some guy on a beautiful Mercian black frame, chrome drops and no brake.

Word. I'm always amazed by the amount of fixies at the castle.

I wouldn't consider riding with a brake on my surly anymore. But that's surely the point, I rode that bike (My first fixie) for a year with a brake so I could get used to every aspect of it before venturing into brakeless (I've ridden BMX and mountain bikes seriously for over a decade, I know how to control a bike regarding spatial awareness, positioning, etc so it's not like I don't understand how to control a bike).

I'm quite scared of the concept of a total newbie riding brakeless. Most of them will undoubtedly ride slower and be a little more sensible about it, likely adding a brake when they realise it is difficult to slow down or stop. But, it's the minority that don't do this that will cause any problems, I've had a brakeless chav looking guy hit my back wheel because he couldn't stop in time (Hopefully his new bike rather than his newly "acquired" bike). It's only going to take one or two nasty incidents/pedestrian deaths or whatever to fuck it up for the rest of us.

/rant

-1 for poor sentence construction.

photoben Chatting to a friend who did the Rapha ride - took them eight hours! And they got lost twice.

I own the London A-Z and the Brighton A-Z, so as we are "off the map" for most of the ride we will technically be lost for most of the ride anyway. Does anyone own a compass?