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I'm a Special Constable, same powers as a regular officer, I just don't get paid.

sounds fun.

if jon doesnt want the the forks that are offered, can i put my name down for second choice please, thanks.

i have a gillott track/path bike, its from 1967, how much were you looking to buy it for?

plus in that video the bar tape goes all the way up.

@ danger joel - your old man is the happiest man on the road riding his HP Spirit recumbent.

Always gives us a toot when passing BF too. ; )

yeah, he does like it....

http://fogonazos.blogspot.com/2007/06/worlds-fastest-bicycle.html
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jUgXtZFdUcs

probably more practical for the street than some hhsb's.

I should point out I'm 31 and have no interest in getting one of these bad boys, just yet.

I geuinely wanted to know if they climbed like , a mountain pass climb. You know how you can get out of the saddle on you traditional bike and give it some if required when the road steepens. Obviously you cant do that on a recumbunt. Does that mean there are limits to its climbing abilities?

I cant believe the length of the chains! Fuck me! You dont want to snag your strides in that :0)

i dont know how useful this is to you, but my dad can get up dichling beacon on it, so anyone should be able to get up a hill on a recumbent.

I went to the talk by Mike Burrows last week and he professes the wonders of "laid back" bikes. Really want to give one a go to see if they really are as easy and efficient as I'm told. However in city I don't think they are suited to going through traffic.

i think that you can rent them out in dulwich park if you want to have a go on them, but i havent been there in a while.

is that due to less wind resistance?

i thought it was rolling resistance, (yes that is my only recubunt fact)

Recumbunt does hold the Lands end to John O' Groats record though 41 hours, 4 minutes and 22 seconds

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Land's_End_to_John_o'_Groats#Cycling

and they were banned from use against other bikes in the 1930s because they are too fast.

my dads got one, and tommy got it completely right, old bearded weirdos ride them. so unless you dont mind looking like one, then they ride ok and can go up hills, they are fast, but because people who ride them enjoy lieing down and are lazy they are always crawling along. its hard to go up curbs becuase you have no leverage and they dont handle well in traffic because of the large turning circle. just stay ona fixed untill your over 50.

from a framebuilders POV, that bike is nothing exciting and poorly designed. It has a very steep seat tube angle, even steeper headtube angle and minimal rake (which is the highlight of the build, because it quite possibly matches the headtube angle to give the bike a proper "trail" measurement) and as far as I can tell, it doesnt have just toe clip overlap, it looks like its more pedal overlap. The wheelbase is too short and imho, that bike is too unstable at high speeds. The lugs are a stock lug for that set of tubes, however, the shorelines look ok.

My ethnicity has nothing to do with my style or taste. just ask your mom, it didnt bother her....

OUCH, thats going to leave a mark....

DW

this is from dave moultons bike blog

" Therefore, I maintain the opinion that toe overlap on a bicycle is neither a design fault nor a problem."

" Toe overlap is a result of other critical design factors and cannot always be avoided especially on smaller frames."

"Toe overlap is not a problem because riding and cornering at normal speed the front wheel never turns far enough for the toe to hit the front wheel."

heres the actual blog if you want to see the context and other stuff about why toe overlap doesnt mean poorly designed bike.

http://davesbikeblog.blogspot.com/2006/11/toe-overlap-no-problem.html

LOL
what's the point of this saddle?^^

its meant to be ridiculously comfy.

where did veevee's post go?

^^^I thought this was a thread about Vallely?

Always thought he was a bit of meat head. But I do (grudgingly) admire his 100% committed balls out approach.

And it's Chris Haslam that rules. FACT.

yeah i know what you mean about the meat head thing, have you seen that video of him fighting with security gaurds? if i can remeber it he goes ape shit when the try and take his board, but still he does throw it down.

there is no point comparing FGF to skateboarding, because they are not the same, they were born out of different things and skateboarding has been around for so long compared to FGF which is relativly new, considering most have come to it not from a circus bike background but from bmx/sk8boarding background i think its silly to say its just circus bikes in the street. although many tricks can be compared to circus bikes, the whole skid thing came from bmx and powersliding on skateboards. also i dont think its right to compare it to stupid fads like snakeboarding and even scooters, although these were at points big, they were born out of mainstream advertising and creation of hype, where as FGF was born out of more subtle hype and grass roots level creation therefore, although they could be compared because of the way they came and went in such a short time, i think that due to the nature and origin of FGF it is better not to.

although it could be argued that FGF will become just like other obscure bike sports which have grown in the last years, "MTB frame and wheel sizes, even 24'' are just completely inferior to a bmx to do tricks on. Just as mountain bikes should stick to cross country, downhill and bullshit industry coined 'freeride' + 'all mountain" i think that there is space for it and i think it will evolve and change, even if the stuff being done at the moment is gash compared to anything a 10 year old can do a skateboard. so basicly, knock it if you want but it is bound to grow and then go mainstream, and then once that slows down we can see what its like, but considering most of us debating this came from a sk8board/bmx background i think that what draws me to it is the idea that as a global community were creating something relativly new and pushing the limits on the way a particular bike can be used ON THE STREETS, and because it hasnt been done on fixed to this extent before i think its really exiting seeing as pretty much everything i do on my sk8board or someone else does on their bmx has at some point been done before, heck most sk8 movies are now resorting to special effects (yeah right) or moving to japan to film new spots (live from Antarctica).

Yeah i see those swimmengers every day at college, wearing their swimming caps/trunks in class and shit.

i dont understand it either, everyone that sees me in my swimming cap asks me if i was watching white men cant swim the night before.

but if we look at it that way then surely were at the middle point, messengers have been using track bikes on roads for ages, and now bike companies are making bikes aimed more at FGF rather than just going fast on the track, look at the new ocean bikes, why did they make it barspin capable?

yeah i see what you mean about track bikes being big and stuff, but if you look at newer ones built for FGF they have smaller frames with sloping top tubes and barspin capabilities as well as risers instead of drops and other adjustments to, those bikes are quite clearly morphing for more of that stuff, plus some FGFers use 25mm tyres instead of 23mm, ect.

asm, you forgot water polo, also have you noticed that only fakenswimmers wear swimming caps now?

flexible?

yeah, i think that about settles it, and with the whole nobrakes thing, i havent ridden nobrakes so wouldnt know, but would assume that going fast in traffic on any bike must me fluid no matter if you have brakes or not, plus most agree that those with brakes can go faster because you can slow quicker, but thats a whole other can of worms.

plus, you forgot bike polo and cycle ballet, and rad ball.

I ride a fixed gear bike and I like it, but the freestyle thing still looks a bit too weak for me to be impressed by it...
There's still a loooooong way to go till it even comes close to skateboarding:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q17MwWYb6d4

thats what i was saying, like when i challenged anyone to bunny hop london bridge ten. except i do think that the way its been pushed within the last year and a half i think it could possibly turn into somthing good, but i think that it (FGFing) needs to be given time before it is compared with skating, because at the moment its not even an afterthought compared to skateboarding.

;195908']FGFers = FixedGearFreestylers?

Tell that to the messengers!

thats why i put apparently, i dont have skinny jeans, nor do many others, its just a cliche. and yeah FGFers = FixedGearFreestylers

;195904']Transportation, yea. Fitness?
Racing/cruising longboards downhill could be similiar to the stuff in MASH.

along this thread, people who ride nobrakes say its makes them more fluid and shit, couldnt you compare that to how skateboarding started, imitating surfers and how smooth they were on the waves, then it changed to street stuff, a bit like how people took off their track drops in place of risers and hey presto you get rollerskating.

its not like roller blading because... rollerbladers are the only ones still wearing baggy trousers, where as bmxers, skateboarders and FGFers wear skinny jeans (apparently)

what about longboards? its like skateboarding, but you just go real fast down hills instead of doing tricks, street skating is only one disipline, like vert and bowl skating.