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This is London my friend...

You get 3 inches, no more.

That's the worst chatup line I've ever heard

I'd trade it in for this one (minus all the tourists and collapsing cantilevers):

The doping & cheating debate goes right to the heart of what you want the essence and value of sport to be.

Real life is shit. It's not fair. The playing field isn't level. Privileged c*nts get a massive headstart in life and then pass that unfair advantage on to their kids and onto their kids who are all c*nts. Why do good things happen to bad people and bad things happen to good people? That's life.

We want sport to be something different to real life, to have a different value system, or at least to be a bit more like how we'd like real life to be. We want it to be completely fair. We want the winners win purely on their own talent, endeavour and hard work with no outside assistance. We want our champions to be nice, decent and honourable people. We don't want them to be c*nts. We don't want it to be like real life.

Unfortunately all sports mirror real life. They always did; Charly Gaul only climbed well when the weather was shitty. Hot weather meant his body couldn't cope with all the speed he was popping; Anquetil thought anyone who didn't dope during the Tour de France was a moron; Merckx failed a number of drug tests, usually pulling a tearful 'Virenque' when he was caught. Coppi refused a drug test after he broke the hour record. No need to guess why.

Does this diminish what they achieved? Morally or ethically speaking, without a doubt. In terms of entertainment value or in pushing the boundaries of what can physically be achieved by a bloke on a bike when he's eyeballs out, perhaps not. It depends on your perspective.

I was stood on the roadside on the final climb to Madonna di San Luca in Bologna on Saturday. It was 114 degrees and the road was fucking steep, far steeper than the route book suggested. Regardless of whether there was CERA or not in their blood stream, you look in the eyes of every single rider that came past and they were all hurting. I respected each and every one of them for getting to the top.

The sporting utopia will never exist, and has never existed. Its professional sport. Enjoy the entertainment.

plus another one. I like cycling, drugs and all.

Campagnolo Pista
Campagnolo Pista + Campag Record Pista + Royce + EAI = kowalski
Campagnolo Pista + Campag Record 111mm (80's) + Phil + Phil = tristoo
Campagnolo Pista + Campag Centaur 111mm + Phil Hub + Phil Cog = Sparky's Fuji
Campagnolo Pista + Campag Centaur 111mm + Suzue Promax SB + EAI superstar = oddsock
Campagnolo Pista + Campag Athena + Phils (Hub and cog) = Jonny
Campagnolo Pista + Campag Pista + Campag Pista = Platini
Campagnolo Pista + Campag Record + Royce + eai = briankwan
Campagnolo Pista + Campag Pista + Dura Ace + Dura Ace = Skully (can't be straight, I never get anything right)
Campagnolo Pista + Campag + Ambrosio + Phil Wood = Sano
Campagnolo Pista + Specialities TA + Phil Wood + Phil Wood = VelocityBoy
Campagnolo Pista + Campag + Araya + Phil Wood = 50/14
Campag Record Pista - Campag Centaur 111mm - Campag Record Pista - Phil Wood - the-smiling-buddha
Campag Record Pista + Record pista + Record Pista + Dura ace = gizmond
Campag Record Pista + Token tiramic 111mm + Ambrosio + Phil Wood = Smallfurry (BB asymmetric, buggerit)
Campag Record Pista + Phil Wood BRS10S 110.5 + Phil Wood + EAI = Jonesy
Campag Record Pista + Campag Centaur 111mm + Dura Ace Hb7600 + Dura Ace = Cornelius Blackfoot
Campagnolo Record Pista+Campagnolo Centaur 111mmISO+Sovos 110mmOLN+Condor CNC=Cosmonaut

Dotek
Dotek cheapy + Campag Mirage + Formula + Dura-Ace = fc9k
Dotek cheapy + UN26/113mm + OnOne small flange double fixed hub + Miche1/8sprocket = xroads

Dura-Ace
Dura-Ace + Sugino 75 + Phil Wood + EAI = hassanr
Dura-Ace + UN72/110mm + Goldtec + EAI Superstar = Object
Dura-Ace + UN53/107mm + Dura Ace+Dura Ace= MA3K
Dura-Ace + UN54/107mm + Dura Ace + Phil = Shinscar
Dura-Ace + Dura-Ace BB-7610 + Dura-Ace 7600 + EAI = flickwg
Dura-Ace 7600 + UN54/107mm + Novatec + some shit = Ant
Dura-Ace FC7710 + Dura Ace BB7710 (109.5) + Dura Ace HB7600 + Dura Ace 1/8 = RPM dura-fuckin-ace.
Dura-Ace all the way baby... = dovoneil
Dura-Ace FC7710 + Dura Ace BB7710 + Dura Ace HB7600 + EAI = town
Dura-Ace Old school 151 + UN54+ Sys Ex + On One= Eyebrows perfect (dangermouse)

Miche
Miche + Miche +Miche + Andel + Miche = fixedfreak (max)
Miche + Campag Record 111mm + Goldtec + EAI = MrSmith
Miche + Miche + Velosteel coaster = gizmond
Miche + Campag Record 109mm + Phil + Phil = gizmond
Miche + Miche + Navigator Pista + EAI = gizmond also
Miche + Sugino + Miche + EAI = Shinscar (surly)
Miche Primato Pista + Shimano UN54/110mm + Formula + Dura Ace = CHUG_IT
MIche Primato Pista + Miche + On-One + EAI = ummar01
Miche (Condor-branded) + Miche 107mm (cups adjusted 2mm towards drivechain) + Goldtec + EAI 1/8" = eeehhhh {46mm chainline}
Miche Primato Advanced + Miche 107mm + Goldtec + Condor = Buddha Fingaz
Miche Primato Advanced + Miche + Miche + Miche = Hovis Brown
Miche Primato Advanced + Miche + Miche + Miche Pista = 50/14
Miche Primato Advanced + Shimano UN53/107mm + Condor Goldtec + EAI = hamster
Miche Advanced + Miche + Dia Compe Grand Compe + EAI = gizmond
Miche Advanced + Campagnolo Athena adjustable 111mm + Dia Compe Gran Compe + Miche Primato = a|s (although my driveside chainstay is out of whack by 5mm or so)

Stronglight
Stronglight + UN53/107mm + Sys-X + Formula= MA3K
Stronglight + Shimano UN73/110mm + SystemEx + EAI -2mm = mr_tom
Stronglight + Stronglight + SystemEx + Tranzmission = BringMeMyFix
Stronglight + UN72/107mm + Miche + EAI = Richard Cheese (all 3/32)
Stronglight + Shitmano UN54/118mm + Goldtec + Surly/EAI (on 130mm dropouts for 50mm chainline, Pomino, Genesis singlespeed etc..)= RPM
Stronglight + Sugino / 103mm + Phil Wood + Phil Wood 1/8" = Superprecise
Stronglight + Shimano + System EX + BLB = maxcrowe
Stronglight 2000 + Stronglight JP400 / 107mm JIS + Phil Wood + Phil Wood 1/8" (42mm chainline) = Spiny

Sugino 75
Sugino 75 + Miche + Condor (non Goldtec) + Dura Ace = brett
Sugino 75 + Miche + Phil Wood = adoubletap & Fred
Sugino 75 + Miche + Phil Wood + Phil Wood = d.mac ( if it ever comes back from Condor....)
Sugino 75 + Miche + Campag + DA = gizmond
Sugino 75 + Phil Wood + Phil Wood + Phil Wood = Cornelius Blackfoot
Sugino 75 + Phil 110.5mm + Phil + EAI Superstar = Object
Sugino 75 + Phil 110.5mm + Goldtech + Phil Wood = Dancing James
Sugino 75 + Campag Centaur 111mm + goldtec + eai = dogsballs
Sugino 75 + Campag Centaur 111mm + Goldtec + EAI= 31t®um
Sugino 75 + Campag Centaur 111mm + Goldtec + EAI = Broker
Sugino 75 + Campag Centaur 111mm + Phil Wood + Phil Wood= adoubletap
Sugino 75 + Campag Centaur 111mm + Phil Wood + Phil Wood= biles
Sugino 75 + Hatta R9400 + ShimanoHB7600 + EAI superstar cog = Tynan
Sugino 75 + Hatta R9400 + ShimanoHB7600 + Dura-ace= Build
Sugino 75 + Sugino 75 + Phil Wood + EAI = mr_tom
Sugino 75 + Sugino 75 + Phil Wood + Surly = Dannoleeed
Sugino 75 + Dura Ace + Condor Goldtec + Condor CNC = Mouse
Sugino 75 + Shimano + Condor Goldtec + EAI Superstar = Nimhbus
Sugino 75 + Hatta R9400 (109mm) + Campagnolo C.Record + Sugino Gigas = moose76
Sugino 75 + Dura Ace (109mm) + Phil Wood + EAI regular (euro asia imports) = moose76
Sugino 75 + Phil Wood + Phil Wood + Phil Wood = shootthebreeze
Sugino 75 + Sugino 75 + Phil Wood + Phil Wood = works
Sugino 75 + Sugino 75 + Dura Ace + EAI Superstar = jaygee

Sugino Messenger/RD
Sugino Messenger + Phil wood (103 jis) + phil wood + phil wood = chris crash
Sugino Messenger + Shimano + Ambrosio + Condor = Shinscar (clown)
Sugino Messenger + Sugino/103mm + Gran Compe + EAI = VED
Sugino Messenger + Sugino + Hope track + EAI = Aleksi
Sugino Mighty Competition + Shimano + Dura Ace + Dura Ace = Charco
Sugino Super Mighty + Sugino 109 + Dura Ace + Phil Wood = Dayno
Sugino RD + Sugino + Ambrosio + Miche = asm } both are pretty much spot on
Sugino RD + Sugino/103mm + Sys-X + Dura Ace = MA3K
Sugino RD + Sugino/103mm + SJS (SystemEx et al) + Dura Ace/Andel = ChrisNW {44 front, 42 rear}
Sugino RD + Sugino/103mm + Halo + Halo = Hotwls
Sugino RD + Sugino/103mm + OnOne + OnOne = -=Mike=-
Sugino RD + Sugino/103mm + Surly O.L.D. + Surly/Miche/Dicta = ShannonBall
Sugino RD + Sugino/103mm + OnOne + Dura Ace = Pifko
Sugino RD + Sugino/103mm+ Sys Ex + Miche = Eightball69
Sugino RD + UN53/107mm + Condor Goldtec + EAI= hamster
Sugino RD + Sugino/103mm + Formula track hub +Miche sprocket (Miche lockring will no fit this hub) = gtvlusso
Sugino RD + Sugino/103mm+ Gran Compe + Token/Andel = Balki

Other
Andel + Shimano UN54 110mm + Forumla + EAI = Jaimes
Andel/BLB + Sugino 103mm + zenith/formula + surly = dinosaur
Camapgnolo road double (Croce D'Aune) + 111mm ACH + Goldtec + Miche or On One or Surly or EAI 3/32nd = AlexB
Campagnolo Double + Shimano + Formula + DA = Tobyprice
Campagnolo Record time trial + FAG Nadax + SJS + Beans Cycles = BlueQuinn
Campagnolo Veloce Double + Campag Veloce + SystemEx = Hovis Brown
Campagnolo Veloce Triple + Campag Veloce + Goldtec + Tranzmission = BringMeMyFix
FSA Vero + 110mm cheapo cartridge + Dura-Ace/SurlyFixer/Shimano LX = N3lson
FSA Vero + Miche + Gran Compe + DA = VED (spot on chainline)
FSA Vero + Shimano UN54 110mm + System EX + On-One = Buddha Fingaz
FSA Vigorelli + ISIS BB of indeterminate width + Phil + Condor = hippynice
Gipiemme Pista + Campag 111mm + Mavic + Dura-Ace (also Goldtec + Miche) = ondine
Gusset Pygmy 853 (gusset chainwheel) + Gusset Euro bb (145mm spindle) + Goldtec + EAI = hassanr
Middleburn RS1+ Shimano XT 68 113mm + White Bros Eno + Surly/ Miche = tommid
Ofmega 49t + Campag + Miche + DA = Tobyprice
Ofmega 52 tooth + Shimano/110mm Italian thrd + Formula + Surly = P!MP(somehow it works)
Pake + UN54 107mm + SJS/Formula + Miche = Frankie_j
Paul + Campag Centaur 111mm + Goldtec + Surly = yorkiefix
Paul + Campag Centaur 111mm + paul + phil = flickwg, nosferatu BIG UP PAUL COMP
Paul Comp + Phil Wood BRS10S 110.5mm + Paul Comp + Surly = Jonesy
Profil Race Cranks with Gusset Chainring, Profile Euro BB, Philwood, Philwood = Object
RPM + Shimano UN54/110mm + Condor (non-Goldtec) + Condor = Brett
Shimano 600 + UN54/110mm + Goldtec 126mm track hub + 3/32 EAI = Prime heretic
Shimano 600 Road Double + Shimano 107mm + System Ex + a cog (possibly) = hippy TI Raleigh
Shimano 600 road double(gebhardt chainring) + Shimano 107mm + Systemex +cheapy cog = BrianClose
SR Apex 165 (118bcd) + Shimano UN54/115mm + System Ex (Condor) + Dura-Ace = cold blow
SR Sakae + Shimano UN54/118mm + SJS (SystemEx et al) + Andel = ChrisNW {42mm}
Sugino Langster Speciales + Sugino 103mm + System Ex + Ye Olde Englishe Coge = hippymess
Suntour Superbe Pro + Phil 108mm JIS + Dura Ace = tick.tick.tick
TA + TA(314) + Campag + Miche = Fruitbat
Truvativ + (??) stock bianchi pista + phil wood + EAI = asm }
White Industries + Phil + Milwaukee(Ben's) + EAI = Archi Pelago
White Industries + Shimano longy+ MTB ss hub+ VeloSolo Disc Cog= Eyebrows 52mm chainline!
White Industries + Shimano/110mm + Phils + White Industries = big daddy wayne
Zeus Pista (circa 80's) + Campag Pista 109mm + Formula + Miche = tristoo
Shimano sora double + Prestine threadless 110.5 + on-one dble fixed + on one = Bernhard (42mm I think)
Truativ Omnium + Truativ GXP External BB cups + On-One Hubs + Miche/Dura-Ace
Shimano Sora (Double - Inside mounted chainring) + Shimano UN54/107mm + Novatech Hubs + Miche
Paul + Centaur111+ Profile + EAI= Eyebrows. Geekhouse (43mm thereabouts)

My bit edited...

Some road brakes are intrinsically shit, or certainly appear so if you are used to v-brakes, which are good. Yours look like they are of the shit variety. If this is the case you can tweak them and put good pads on them, but they will still be fairly shite.

Black magic

Racist!

I had the steerer on my 1" forks extended 10mm by the guy at Mercian as part of some work that I was having done, so he chucked it in for free.
Fuck knows how he did it, but he did, and the threads matched up perfectly.

I have a fitted, but never used Chorus 102mm BB (British) - Fucking smooth - £20

Shit, good timing - I'll send you a PM

Fucking hell. Good for you. And shame on us mere mortals.

Errmm.. trying to edit my entry for this, and it won't let me post that many characters (9000 and some)- I was just copying and pasting the list. Any ideas on what I'm doing wrong?

Cars, tits, celebrity, football, and scandal, the life-affirming 5-a-day for the (very) average male in this country. Any combination of these is a headliner.

'kin 'ell - just looked at their price on the Mercian site - £1850 + VAT for a frame only - on that basis if someone gets it for £500 that would be a bit of a steal.
But yes, perfectly decent tandems can be got for a lot less than that

That tandem looks pretty special - don't know about the lack of a hub brake though, stopping might be a bit sluggish, especially if you're panniered up and flying down an Alp...

Jeez kids today... it's an internationally recognised (SI) unit of length for crying out loud

Nice one andy, that's what I needed to know, cheers mate.

I've got a '95/'96 Campag Chorus double chainset that's going on a frame with a British BB 68mm shell and 130mm rear spacing.
According to the catalogues for those years the BB came in either 102, 111 or 115.5.

The cranks were previously on a frame with a 70/102 italian BB, but I'm not too inclined to assume this was correct (partly because the inner ring was only a gnat's cock away from the chainstay), or that it would work on a 68mm shell.

Oh and it's all square taper of course.
So do any of you actually know which would be the correct axle length?
Thanks

Fuck the BNP. Anyone who votes for them or considers voting for them is a worthless cunt.

Oh well, he's out now anyway:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/other_sports/cycling/8064691.stm

That there is a nice frame - I've got the same one a size up. Christ I think I paid that for the frame alone when they were newish.

He may or may not have been driving fast, but he was driving like a cock.

Amazing how CCTV seems to come up trumps for some people and not for others...

Wow, bad luck - get well soon.
Get the fucker taken off the road.
And buy some opium.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1w6tPZ0J07c

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