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velocity boy I clearly lied, I found another bit of space for improvement. The Vanilla guys didn't enabled PHP compression using gzip. I've turned it now, everything should appear to be faster :)

so are you saying that it looks fast but isn't? a bit like spinning like a loon downhill but being overtaken by a roadie in freewheeling aero-tuck style.

maybe there should be a list of stuff they do discount? or do they have the same automated response of "Sorry, we don't give the discount on that as our margins are too tight."to every request for discount?

(in fairness to condor i did get a fiver off a pair of endura 3/4's as the poppers on the inner were coming apart)

fell off the mtb yesterday, knee is still a bit sore, i may turn up to watch the action.

46x17 700x25c 170mm = 71.4 gear inches, according to the sheldon brown calculator

so now you have to signup to view those crazy septic bikes?
i wanted to look at the bike porn. what's changed?

it's deffo faster

is that frame Ti ? ruined by sixth dorm daubings purpetrated by somebody with an unhealty sci-fi fixation and a liking for purple. (IMHO)

maybe the note said 'hurry over to mums'
they are probably still waiting for you.

that vanilla gave me a semi.
would be afraid to ride it though it looks so expensive. (the bike that is)

I got a copy of quicksilver messenger service off ebay for a couple of quid, it was a bit stretched and the sound was wobbly, no matter coz it was an ubelievably shit film anyway....except that bit where he does a ballet with his girlfirend on a bike, actually quite impressive....and the street tricks section....Amazing Skills......hilarious though because judging by their huge moustaches and broad shoulders the guys cast for this scene were obviously Russian circus cyclists not any kind of messenger.....check out the bikes they're on too.....circus bikes not track-style messenger bikes....so there you go....if you wanna do tricks get a one to one gear, short wheelbase, vertical forks, kiddie cranks and funny saddle and bars.....it's still fixed!

chainring divided by sprocket multiplied by 27 (that's the inch bit as in diameter of wheel) 47 / 14 x 27 = 90.6"

alternatively wheel your bike in a straight line for one entire pedal revolution, measure the distance covered and divide by pi! couldn't be simpler.....

I totally do not understand expressing your gear in the "number x number" format....it's means nothing to me when I hear it or see it.....I have to get out the calculator and work it out in inches.....by then the conversation has usually moved on to something far more interesting.....is it just me? am I thick? are you lot mathematical genii? besides which the actual size of the ring/sprockets is irrelevant it's the ratio that's important.

expressing your gear in inches may not be 100% accurate (but then neither is the other way) but it does provide you with a clear incremental scale, 74 inches is lower than 81.....easy!

can we revert back to imperial for the purposes of me understanding this thread please......

what do the metricated continentals do (Jos?) would my 75" gear be 1940mm or something?

i has to be fixed yes? :-)
goldtec do 130mm spaced hubs as do phil wood and possibly level? and maybe gromada don't know of any cheap ones?

it's obvious they don't need to give a discount to survive, they have a 'brand' they stock stuff you can't get elsewhere, they are in an area with a lot of suits who flock there at lunchtime picking up sets of wheels at 1k a pop
maybe the new shop in brick lane is better for discount? (haven't been there yet)
the other thing you can do is frequent your lbs, mine (moose cycles coliers wood) have been a great shop, despite the fact that they know i get lots of bike stuff at trade from people i know in the industry and am unlikely to buy a bike from them they still lend me tools, sort small repairs in time for a weekend ride and they still give me a discount on most stuff.
they don't do road though. they still sorted me a cheap seatclamp when the one on my condor broke out on a ride and i needed a stopgap until condor replaced the broken one.

riding up the hill out of peaselake (some of you probably know where this is) on my mtb i noticed a magazine, closer inspection revealed it to be a pristine copy of transvestite today.
i didn't get past the 1st page before i had to release my grip on the sordid publication.
i left it open on the 'babe of the month' centrefold on the verge so it was clearly visible to anyone passing.

i got the last one :-)

here you go bill i've found them

here

nobody ever changes their mind after all the arguing.

it's top secret

they ride on the other side of the road across the pond. how crazy is that!

I get asked almost everyday where to get a bike from by designers, photographers, and other randomly trendy people.[/quote]

although i'm a random un-trendy photographer, an ex courier friend (can't remember if he's the most famous or 2nd most famous ex-courier in london?) made me buy a fixed. but before this i knew how to build wheels, service suss forks,bleed mtb disc brakes and bookmark sheldon. and test ride prototype mtb's for a friends company so my spare time revolved around bikes and riding, i ride singlespeed off road too.
i didn't buy a pista to look cool as i'm too old for all that
one thing i do know is after some other 'trend' takes over i'll still be riding fixed trendy or not.

armadillos for thousands of miles puncture free...
next best with added comfort and speed gatorskins....well priced too.

Welwyn is less than half an hour by train from central London (Kings Cross, Old Street, Highbury and Islington, Finsbury Park) and velodrome is a 15 min walk or 5 min ride from the station.....so easily accessible to North Londoners.....

just bought one of these from Brixton yesterday.....after years of breaking sub 10 quid models I tried Ross's (Brixton mechanic) and was a convert, well worth the money.

i thought that was the japanese thing? those njs frames aren't exactly cheap!