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I can't unsee this disgraceful setup
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Measure the BB height above ground with 700c/tubs on. Lee Valley specifies a BB height of 285mm or more. My guess is yours will be lower than that. Other than sixes, '50s track racing was pretty much all on larger outdoor tracks.
If the frame works for you on the track, you could always tape up the braze-ons to get within the rules.
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I'm selling my Roberts-built GB track here if anyone's interested. Luckily for me I still have another Charlie Roberts track frame that fits me better than this one.
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Hi. Yes, they are. I hadn't uploaded photos. Now done.
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Time to move on this beauty. It's a 1970s Geoffrey Butler (Geoff Roberts thought late '70s), built by Charlie (Chas) Roberts senior.
Classic aggressive '70s track geometry, which is pretty similar to modern track geo:
Seat tube 56cm c-t (54cm c-c)
Top tube 56cm c-c
Head tube 12.9cm
27.0mm seatpost
ENG threads
Matching numbers on frame and forkIt's a beautifully stiff frameset: Columbus PS (the thicker-gauge tubeset for sprinters and six-day riders); chunky non-tapered seat stays (a signature element on many Roberts track bikes of the era), as preferred by Ron Webb and the like.
Campagnolo ends finish it off.I've had it for years, mainly on the wall. I did race it at Herne Hill and Preston Park in 2018. It's nice and stiff as steel goes. If it fitted me better, it'd be a forever bike.
The only small dent is at the bottom of the drive-side seat stay, right at the bottom. I didn't notice it until I was giving it a quick polish before I took photos.
The chrome looks absolutely superb in the sunshine. There is plenty of pitting and patina, as you'd expect from a frameset that's nearly fifty years old. It's ideal as a track or fair-weather bike; not ideal as a fixie hack.
£350£300 posted, buyer to pay postage -
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Nice. Might it be Columbus PS?