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Ha, disagree, that half.and half Look is begging for a white stem :)

And thanks Rik, at.least I know they exist and the Richey looks decent enough, cheers.

Cheers, yes I've changed the saddle, tyres and added cages so far, as in the pic above, but that's the one...mad bargain.

And don't worry gaston as I said above I've not played with cockpit yet so that will all be changed :)

Weather this week has been so grim I not ridden it at all, seems like it's been constantly raining or snowing all bloody week.

And I still can't even find proof of the existence of any -17 degree white stems, which seems weird.

My first carbon bike!

Look 585 Origin, I think from 2008/9 ish looking at old Look catalogues. The 585 seemed to start of as black and end up white and this half and half version I guess was somewhere between the two.

Sexy rear monostay

Only managed 10 miles on it today before it started snowing FFS, so cut short the test ride, so need some longer rides to finalize the bar height. Will be changing the bar tape to white, the front derailleur is being swapped for a carbon one, and I never liked the look of that rear wheel lacing and the wheels are a bit tired so I plan to replace them too.

Also relieved/impressed to discover 28c tyres fit in front and rear, though the rear does not go in the drop out when fully inflated, so just need to remember that when I get a rear puncture so I don't have a massive whitey on the side of the road after pumping up 2 tyres consecutively with a mini pump.

I'm glad its an earlier one which can use regular 27.2 seatposts size and has external cabling, and a regular integrated headset is also pleasingly straight forward.

As these XL Looks have a horizontal top tube and lugs, its pretty old school in appearance, so I'd like to keep a 17 degree stem so its level with top tube, but would prefer a white one, but my googling can't seem to find any 120mm long 17 degree stems in white at all, in carbon or alu, does nobody make them??

You need to follow Potter's lead and get yourself one of those fancy designer roll neck jumpers.

haha, yes according to that calculator up there I need 815 mm bars!! That's surely too wide to ride in any woods. Think that's for pole vaulting.

Saw this 1968 Ford Thunderbird, love the styling of the rear lights, pure sci-fi rocket booster.
Thelma and Louise agreed as it was the convertible version of this they tried to jump over that canyon Evel Knievel style.

The next obvious mtb is craze is going to be double dropper handlebars that retract in 4 inches each side so you can get your bike in your house.

I'm not having it, I'm not going beyond 660.

Jesus they keep getting wider!

I'm still grappling with the massive changes in the 15 year hiatus I took from mtb. My 'all mountain' 2002 5 inch full suss had a 12cm long stem, back then we lol'd at the comedy width of the stock bars so I cut down my Easton Monkeylite's to 580mm back then.

I recently bought a old 2008 hardtail mtb, still old school 26er with a triple crank, and bars on that are 680mm. I've ridden this for a month now and am convinced these are already too wide. They also barely get in the doors of the flat as it is, and I'd still like to be able to do some filtering riding around town, rather than being condemned to sit in traffic as I'm as wide as a rikshaw!

I recently got some bars with more rise on them, and these are 740mm wide, thankfully with handy markers to cut them down as that already seems ridic, and now they're at 780 and beyond....wtf...going to need arm extension implants soon to be able to reach the end of the fuckers the rate they're going.

Help with Zipp wheels, are the Zipp Campagnolo freehubs the same so same one will fit on 302's and 303's?

My googling reveals the Campag freehubs seem to be blue colour, and say 11 speed, but can I run Campag 10 speed on them?

And if the answer to the above is yes, where the hell can you get any in London ideally, or even anywhere in the UK that doesn't seem to need a special order? I can't seem to find them in stock anywhere.

Thanks, I will post in the Look thread once I've got my set up done.

The buy was in no small part down to you. I've never ridden a carbon bike of any kind before, but for over a decade whenever someone posts here they are thinking of selling their 585 you say something along the lines of "don't! you'll regret it, sell another bike, get another job, one of the best bikes ever, just don't do it" so that finally seeped in and when the opportunity for a bargain one came up I figured it was a no-brainer :)

Ha!
Oh god I hope its not a bad omen. The bb area does seem remarkably clean and free of any obvious knarling, so I hope the previous owner wasn't that guy
....or maybe the dogfang thing was doing its thing and saving the day, cos its ace #marketing

Ah OK thanks a lot. So it was option a and c :)

I'm not off roading the thing, and though London's roads are not exactly billiard table I don't recall my other bikes dropping chains all over the show or even ever, so I'm guessing if you got your front derailleur set up properly, and Look didn't see the need to add one themselves, then it isn't needed and is going. And will save 18g.

Ohshit hang on, have I just become a weight weenie.....

What is this clamp thing over the sticker on a Look I just bought?

Is this some kind of device to try and stop the chain falling and knarling up that lovely carbon bb area?
Some kind of powery metery crank rev counter thingey?
Some gopping orrible plasticky after market nothing to do with Look thing, that has some function my primal steel biked brain can't figure out?
Other?
You can tell I'm new to the carbon bike and bike tech of any kind game ;)

Haha you do have a sharp eye, and yes I bought that white Look cage yesterday :)

There was only 1 though but the white one will look good on the down tube, but ideally I'd like a black one for the seat tube to match the black on the rear of the bike, do you or anyone else know if they did that version in black and white?

This is the one I bought yesterday

Massive thanks for the heads up on this, I owe you a beer sir, I now own my first plastic bike :)

Collected it yesterday, the pics were not the best and its way better in real life than I expected. Wheels a bit tired but still at least another year or two in them, and obviously the seatpost/saddle/stem/bars set up is aesthetically challenging and will be remedied by the weekend, but I got a nice long cage 10 speed Record rear derailleur, Record crank and brakes, Chorus shifters, Deda carbon bars and stem and Zonda wheels for 409 quid, and the fact I got a XL Look 585 frame included, kind of boggles my mind, mad bargain.

Damn the Rock Shox jacket is gone already, didn't even get a chance to bid on it, would have loved that in all its 90's wrestlers glory.

Oldy spots from the weekend. Bristol 400


Lovely Elan SE


Excellent condition Volvo Amazon


And something to carry the bikes.

I think its because whoever did the chart was doing it on Friday afternoon or on Monday.

Pre Brexit and Pre Covid, that was a different world :)

But I'm old and love Max frames so am obviously in a minority.

OK maybe I've gone a bit high then, was your sale ages ago as sounds like you sold off your MXL cheaps!

Nice frame but looks like its had a hard life.

Someone looking to do their own custom paint on it would maybe be tempted, but I'd still want to see what lurks beneath that chain stay wrap first, considering the ratty nature of the rest of it.

What size is it? I don't know anything of the builder so don't know if there's extra cred in the name, and someone may be prepared to pay a couple of hundred for the fork as Max forks are ace, so I'd guess about 300-400 at a push, assuming there's no horrors under that chainstay wrap.

Loving the nostalgia and memories triggered just by seeing the keys, great find.

And I saw this today, never heard of one before, a trials car apparently, a Dellow Mk2. Reckon this is just what @skinny needs and unlike the jacked 205 above, if it gets stuck in a ditch you can lift it out on your own.

Nice condition 8th generation 1970 Cadillac Eldorado spotted today, the one with the huge 8.2 litre engine, delivering 400hp and 550 torquey things, which sounds loads for 1970. The OPEC fuel crisis a few years later put an end to these behemoths, I like the styling though for a barge, especially the rear lights.