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If anything, we've seen a really strong decoupling in the wealthiest nations to the point where fertility rates have declined pretty rapidly

Yes the current forecast is 8 in 10 people will be from Asia or Africa by 2100, with Africa trippling it's population between now and then. Asia will be declining by 2100 but continued growth from now until 2080.

We are ill prepared for the coming demographic shifts and thier seems little appetite for discussion or planning for it. Europe has seen tiny changes so far compared to what's coming and already sees it's politics not fit for purpose and populations resistant and unprepared.

I'm not talking about an 'ordinary' Westerners consumption.

I know you go on to address this slightly but we should talk about it. Yes the ultra wealthy are highly destructive from a resource consumption point of view but the ordinary western consumption, especially in areas like the southern US states, middle east, affluent far east pockets is not sustainable if others aspire to it.

I don't have time to look for it but there are reasonable estimates that the global population could live a western 1970's-80's level of consumption sustainably. This would see a massive uplift in living standards for the global majority, a minor reduction for many and a unthinkable level of reduction for the wealthy.

We can't afford to perpetuate that the current 'typical' western lifestyle is without harm or just

There is a large body of work in the degrowth/ steady state economics looking at this but it challenges societies political and economic expectations of endless growth

This is the more active podcast thread
https://www.lfgss.com/conversations/185209/?offset=600#comment17547081

This is a good report on the issues we face and obviously being a whole year out of date, we have managed to make the situation worse
https://www.postcarbon.org/publications/welcome-to-the-great-unraveling/

The great simplification with Nate Hagens is a great podcast trying to answer the topic of this thread

Relevant Kevin Anderson quote

While population growth levels may slow by the end of the century, living standards are forecast to keep growing, so you might have less people but more people living at a current western living standard and higher, so resource consumption growth will continue to grow for far longer

They are 25% off currently direct from switchbot if that helps

I have normal non smart thermopro meters scattered around the house and they are good

For smart functionality and logging I have switchbot sensors which have been great but don't have a visual display
https://amzn.eu/d/94FvQju

I'm not sure how often people get to Reykjavik

KOT guy does a lot of similar stuff to what a physio prescribed me, so think it's relatively safe

I was battling with it for 18 months+ and then had a month where I averaged about 28k steps a day including several 20+ mile walks and it has been barely noticeable since, I have no explanation but it has really helped

Are rammstein on the do not support list?

I'm in Derby, it was 3c last night, not Siberia but not mild

Thanks for this, really enjoyed it

Scuttles off to find the donation details again

There was a discussion on this on R4 earlier and thier take was that it's all just to drive headlines and grow social media reach

Just to add to the above, aldi also currently have bratwurst flavour in

Came back a few weeks ago, from a week here:
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/travel/article/2024/jul/25/mindfulness-retreat-devon-sharpham-estate

Can not recommend it highly enough, has been an incredible experience for me

I agree with that majority of the points of concern around CCS and facilitating a continuation of the status quo, happy to carry it on in the climate change thread if needed

The fuckin worst, hate it so much

The CCS bashing feels slightly like looking for reasons to bash Starmer.
The are no credible IPCC IAM models for below 3C that don't involve vast amounts of CCS. There are very fair critisms of these models and thier reliance on CCS, the energy requirements and future societies willingness to pay for it but the UK has favourable geology and the potential to be a global leader, just as we were last month being the first G7 to go off coal.
Existing CCS is currently not great and as pointed out being used for enhanced recovery of fossil fuels which is self defeating but 22bn over decades is peanuts for potentially unlocking a new technology.
The CCC scenarios all have BECCS in them, again problematic but they haven't found a solution that gets the UK to net zero without it. If people have better solutions, I'm sure they'd welcome your evidence submission for helping them write the 7th carbon budget.

Swimming

This is what happens when a party has been completely captured by lobbyists and people who believe in nothing.

What they listen to the climate change committee recommendations?

Can I just say, the bashing people who live far from the office, as someone who hasn't gone in this week when they should've, I feel very seen

I'm feeling slightly off and think it's viral but no doubt have the odd colleague who is thinking I'm taking the mick

Based on weather alone I'd go GR221 Deia to Porto Pollenca, easy public transport connections each end

Pilot V5, the dependable and affordable solution you'd expect from someone ready to roll up thier shirt sleeves and do the hard graft