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Thanks, about the same as my el mariachi, 60cm on a medium I think. I’m hoping it’ll work with swept back bars even if I have to scoot the saddle back a bit. One last question, is your steerer standard 1 1/8”?
I’ve seen a couple of people say the mount the comes with the seat doesn’t fit a standard fork steerer as the maximum tube diameter it accommodates is 28mm, which would seem crazy considering 28.6 is almost completely standard.
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Are they that much better then? I’m really a newb to all this. The classic seems to be the go-to machine as the ideal between pro features, consumer price point and decent build quality, I have seen the Rancilio mentioned but hadn’t really paid it any attention.
I want a decent machine and a decent grinder than can basically grow with me as I improve my brewing skill. I’ve always been a believer in buy the best thing you can afford and buy stuff that’s built to last.
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Yeah fair point well made. 9/10 I’d have made that same decision already - all my bikes are 2nd hand for example.
Was more wondering about any empirical arguments of one machine over the other or any overall reasons to buy a machine new over a used one. Warranty is the main one but they’re so repairable and parts are so readily available it doesn’t seem like such an issue which is unusual for a modern item. Gaggia UK will even do a full service for £85... if I did that I’d still be spending half what the new machine would cost.
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So to complicate matters I’ve just found a pre-2015 Classic 2nd hand, locally to where my parents live, for £70.. it looks in very good nick and is advertised as lightly used. I’d want to do the steam arm upgrade, but that’s not an expensive job.
Call it £100 for the 2nd hand pre-2015 plus the steam arm and some descaled etc to get it all cleaned up vs £315 for the new one... decisions...
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Indeed. The online reviews seem favourable, some even saying it’s the best one yet. Comes with a professional steam want now I think instead of the one that everyone used to immediately bin off and upgrade. I’m by no means an expert, only know what I’ve read online hence wondering if anyone who’s ‘in the know’ has had a play with one and can see any obvious drawbacks with it.
Same with the MDF grinder, generally good reviews but some people online suggesting you can get a lot more out of the classic with a better grinder, seems you can get a 2nd hand super jolly grinder for roughly what a new MDF costs.
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Has anyone had hands on experience of the new Gaggia Classic, the new ‘2019’ model?
Was planning on buying the whole setup with the matching Gaggia MDF grinder, but as costco have the 2019 machines for £299 I’m wondering if I’m better off buying the machine and then looking at a 2nd hand grinder of a better quality?
Any thoughts?
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Maybe.
I’d wager many people are putting a lot more than £100 on at a time.
Also, if you’ve got the option of a ‘Revolut’ or a bank account, where your money is protected, you get interest (albeit tiny), you can receive and transfer money as you would any other bank, and you have the full balance of your account available in any currency in the world at the same exchange rate as Revolut, I’m not sure why you wouldn’t just open a bank account. It takes minutes with Starling. As far as I can tell it has all the advantages - and more besides, and none of the downsides. Just my tuppence.
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Starling > everything else.
You get the global exchange rate, not the local one or the inflated one most banks impose on you. And there’s no charge and no limit.
To the point where I spend money abroad for work, I input my expenses into my accounting software (FreeAgent) in euros and it does the conversion to £, and I actually sometimes pay less via starling than what FreeAgent calculates the expenses at.
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Nice find that genesis, I don't think I'd want to chop it, partly depends how much you paid for it I guess, and if you've got room for it as an N+1 rather than chopping it.
Re: the water carrying on No.1 - maybe better off with a full frame bag and a bladder? That was one of my big takeaways when I toured with a frame bag and two bottles... but I do ride silly small frames tbf.
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Ace, thanks. Bike looks great!