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''It may use a headclip headset, if so it would place the frame 30's or '' You need to read the History.
http://www.classiclightweights.co.uk/gillott.htmlGillotts only started frame building in May 1945.
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May I use the pics on my flickr set?
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First of all, the lugs. A mix of Curly Cut and Spear. Very unusual. See the Curly Cut set I linked to on flickr http://www.flickr.com/photos/makfreak/sets/72157617359163094/
In the 40's Gillotts were experimenting with lug styles so these combos appear but are very rare.
Headclip, maybe but if so the steerer has been cut short. The Lytalloy headset nut may be original and it just used the loose insert races. Itll work. Look like Chater Lea lugs. Looks early to me, 47 ish? Check the steerer for a number. Rear dropouts look like they ve beeen changed or modified. Look modern. Drilled and sleeved rear brake bridge is original. Back then bikes had to do track work, TTs and club work. GR23V is Vaughans casting number. 191 is probably a sand blasters number. The other number with 479 in it could be a messed up frame number. Again , check steerer. At this time they stamped the Year e.g,. 947 for 1947 then the sequential. Only in the 300's in '47 for instance. Frame numbers were on steerer and BOTH rear dropouts. Get scraping. Curved chain stay bridge is unusual too, not seen one b4. Modern headbadge is wrong. Only transfers on early ones unless its from 49 in which case it would have had a brass type. Front dropouts look ugly and wrong. Ascertain date to get spec for correct period kit. Let me know. -
Hi Did you get the brakes sorted on the Gillott? Is this John in Forres?
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Here's a link to my photos term on Flickr
http://www.flickr.com/photos/makfreak/
Goodwood Revival 2013 -
I took a few before my battery died. I will transfer them from the iPhone.
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Gillotts were the "go to" builder for the traditionalists after the war. I had a 1953 Fleur de Lis with a head clip. But very unusual.
I would not fret about the dropouts or the steerer. Build it up as it is with kit from the 4o's and you won't be far wrong.
The frame number is a puzzle. 1954 is too modern for this frame. 1947 is more like it. Can you take a photo of the number as stamped on the steerer. They were using 3/32nd stamps.