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Guess what? I've finally found my frame number !! Yes, I know, who's the numpty, then? It was hidden underneath the cable guide fitting on the underside of the BB. A couple of the numbers actually were visible, can't imagine how I didn't see them before - must be my cataracts... (yeah, right). Anyway, the number as far as I can make it out is 4528399. Can anyone interpret this for me please? I guess the 99 is year of manufacture. What about the rest of it? And does this number format itself suggest a PD build?
Thanks for the very useful info on this thread from GideonPARANOID and beenatitforyears.
This frame has the 531 Millenium tubing, the tear drop down tube and what looks suspiciously like Team BRITE red paint, so together with the frame number location and format do you think I am safe in saying it's a PD build?
As always, many thanks.PS: several folks have commented they have a known-PD frame (in one case because they bought it from PD himself) yet the frame has no number. It occurs to me that when PD built frames for others such as Cougar, GW etc, he would have had to number each frame for commercial traceability and insurance purposes. But when PD was starting to wind down operations in the later years, I wonder if for frames he sent out under his own brand he simply didn't bother with numbering - any warrany returns would only involve his own company, not any third party, there would be little in the way of traceability issues so maybe he felt it wasn't necessary. Just a thought.
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Thanks for that, I'll have another look. I have sent a query to GWC via their on-line query box, but nothing back yet. I was planning to write to Keith Jones who is apparently knowledgeable on these matters, but I can only find a postal address. Do you have a current email address? Their covid web site says they will answer emails as soon as practicable, but they don't give any email address that I've been able to find. Thanks very much for your help, really appreciated.
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Hi folks, I'm new here so please be gentle with me. I want to know if my GWs are really PDs . Can anyone tell me where the frame numbers will be on these - one is 531, the other 853 - both millenuim badged. I've had both from new (one for sure from GW November 1999, the other (early 2001 afaict) I think so too but cannot find original paperwork) and I cannot find any frame numbers on either. Thanks to all the wonderful photos on this forum I can say the rear stay ends, forks, welding quality, aero stays, mega DT etc all point to genuine PD, but did any other builder have these same 'fingerprint' areas? Is it a case of "if you've got at least three [say] of these PD traits then it MUST be a PD build" ? All advice gratefully appreciated. Thanks
Chris
Long-time owner of two Graham Weighs, one in Millenium 531, the other in Millenium 853.