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I don’t see how the roundabout example is comparable. Of course you can’t blast into/pass people on your left. That’s just straight up wrong. If you extended the radius of the roundabout to infinity you pretty much end up with road rules, where you can’t blast into people already on your left and you give way to your right.
In the previous example, if chicken is being played the person without priority is wrong.
Fyi, when I said I asserted myself I don’t think I was doing anything particularly dangerous. At the end of the day better to stop than to be in a crash.
I know that some drivers are bad to everyone but people cycling are disadvantaged. That’s why they are more likely to be targeted as they are more likely to yield.
I was in a situation similar to the video where a van driver essentially claimed that I should stop and move out the way because he is in the larger vehicle. I don’t doubt many drivers have this bizarre interpretation of the rules and not instead by who has priority based on road layout.
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This example is similar: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=oxaRZdSS0mI
Failed driving test, I guess. Oh wait, no. The the driver was punished and not the cyclist.
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And assuming the diagram is accurate, both parties went through at a similar time.
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Cycling into someone? Not good. Cycling into a “narrow” (they still fit) gap and stopping a driver from bullying? Who cares? You’d also fail a driving test for doing what both van drivers did. Why waste time calling out bad cycling when the actual danger due to it is far less than the simultaneous bad driving?
I am pretty sure I’d fail a driving test for stopping on a narrow road with a car behind me because the driver was tailgaiting to tell them to stop doing it and subsequently cycling really slowly because they refuse, but I have done this while cycling.
I can honestly say I have continued to cycle many times when drivers try this and it forces them to slow down/stop. They should not get the satisfaction of bullying their way through.
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Honestly I’m tired of drivers parking dangerously and I’m tired of drivers bullying their way through- I would certainly stop them from going through if I can, or at least slow them down- so I’m floored that people here find it acceptable and are completely blind to it and instead attack someone who probably is also sick of dealing with that shit.
Bow down to your car overlords.
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Sorry where is this rule? Also, not saying cycling into someone and berating was great (although in say filtering you go through narrow gaps and someone could walk out without looking- obviously you slow to accommodate that but also people should look properly too).
It’s just funny that people immediately attack the person cycling and defend the van driver who parked by coming up with lame excuses. I guess cycling on the pavement/jumping lights if it is safer is fine in people’s eyes here too?
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when you got to the road or the parked van? If the latter, the van driver should have waited. The former does not sound like it could actually happen. How could you get to the junction, turn into the road and cycle up the road all while van driver was overtaking unless the junction was right next to the parked van?
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Don’t really understand what you mean here. Was there a junction right before that you entered the road from?
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Clearly the van driver was the cunt in this situation as they should have stopped and waited for the cyclist to pass as the obstruction was on their side of the road- I bet other van driver shouldn’t have stopped there either. If the cyclist was in a car the driver would probably wait but, since he wasn’t, the driver thought he could bully his way through.
Lorry driver should stay in the general traffic lane.
“As the bin man suggests, if they block the road they still have to drag the bins across the cycleway, therefore still creating a hazard for cyclists.”
Much less of a hazard and easier to navigate than a lorry. If people try to use the cycle track to overtake the lorry they are also wrong. They could add wands to prevent this, for example. Hopefully when the area is upgraded this problem will be reduced.
But yeah long term what Oliver said is really the approach Camden needs to be taking. Tavistock should never be a through route, it should be part of a LTN with the zonal boundaries being Euston Rd, Gray’s Inn Rd, Wolburn Pl, and perhaps Theobalds or Guildford Rd.