SOLD Zunow Z-1 59/58cm

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  • Collectable, appreciated and rarely any on the market - Zunow of master builder Takeru Kageyama, Osaka. Was meant for a taller colleague, who changed his mind and went for a run of the mill carbon.

    Drive side rear drop-out was replaced by Winston and sprayed over by (closeish match) Mario of Waronha fame. At the same time it was spread from 126-130mm to be compatible with modern groupsets, like on the pic sporting DA 7700 The frameset is fully chromed under the metallic green paint. There are no dents, but with plenty of paint chips which are covered in matching enamel paint and waxed over.

    Including in the price is Zunow proprietary headset, PayPal fees and postage. Asking £575 > £550> £525 > £460

    PM for more info and pics if interested.


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  • BUMP £550

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  • Where is the bike located? I could be interested if I could go see it.

  • I'm based in Slough, working near Uxbridge.

  • Bump £499

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  • what's the ideal rider height for this bike you recon?

  • This depends on your leg to torso ratio mostly, I can ride it at my 180cm, but I'm more like 56, I'd say round 188/190cm. See here https://www.ebicycles.com/frame-sizer/road-bike-frame-calculator/ but again, if you are 184 with long legs....

  • This is a view of one of the retro chaps...enjoy reading it.

    Great questions.

    First of all, very few cyclists know a darned thing about bike fit. Almost 99% of the road bikes on the road are ridden 99% of the time from the hoods. The cyclists that own the bikes can't actually comfortably reach their drops, even to win a bet. Most cyclists couldn't actually ride five consecutive miles in their drops on a fifty mile ride. Yet, they'll all tell you how to fit a bike. Take everything with a grain of salt.

    I'd direct you to read the following:

    https://www.peterwhitecycles.com/fitting.htm

    https://www.rivbike.com/kb_results.asp?cat=23

    Both Peter and Grant would have you end up on a boat anchor steel "art bike" but that's a different conversation. They do know what they are talking about in terms of fit.

    The three critical factors to fit:

    You can't really compensate for TT length. Changing stem lengths completely transforms the handling of the bike. There really is a sweet spot in terms of TT length. Which is why cyclists in the know won't deviate to buy a bike if the TT is more than +/- 1cm, even if they love the bike.

    Standover has nothing to do with bike fit. For all but the most aggressive racers, you want the bars as high as possible. The only way to raise the bars on a classic horizontal top tube bike is to go with a larger frame size, unless you're willing to put a frankenstem on the bike. A larger frame size (if you can reasonably control TT length in the process) resultingly raises the handlebars, relatively speaking. Where your "junk" rests at standover has no bearing on fit. You don't ride a bike by standing at a stop sign. Back in the day guys that were 5'10" were riding on 27" frames (68.5cm) commonly. They liked the fit of the upright bars. They couldn't safely come to a stop, necessarily. However, how often do you really stop and stand on every ride?

    Most everyone that you know who is a cyclist, who will be advising you on fit, is riding a bike that is 4-6cm too small for them, but has the right size TT/stem combo for riding on the hoods. Everyone wants small triangle compact geometry bikes nowadays that look racy and like the Pro peloton. However, the average joe can't come near the saddle to handlebar drop that Pro tour riders are fit to. Nor would you want to because that aerodynamic aggressive position isn't comfortable. Middle age wannabes might still have a very aggressive position, but most retired pro riders don't continue to ride with anything nearly that aggressive of a saddle to bar drop. It just isn't comfortable. Racing isn't about comfort. The point here is whatever people recommend as "fitting" you, consider that to be 4-6cm too small, as a rule.

    That chart is off by the same amount. I'm 6'7" with about a 100cm cycling inseam. That absurd chart would suggest a 64cm frame. Not even close. A 63cm or 64cm frame is for someone 6'1" to 6'3" depending on the proportionality of their leg to torso length. If tall cyclists really could ride a 63/64 Zinn would be out of business. I ride on vintage Cannondale ST touring frames that are 27" or 68.5cm. A tad bit too long in the TT (most tall people are leggier than they are proportionate) and I have to slam the saddle all the way forward. My knees aren't close to KOPS position, especially with the custom 205mm cranks. In a perfect world I'd ride a 68cm with a tall head tube to get more upright, the bike would have an intelligent seat tube angle, not what works for someone five foot nothin'.

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SOLD Zunow Z-1 59/58cm

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