Moser Build: Got advice?

Hi everyone!

I have one very standard old Moser from the early 90's with 105 and basically period-correct parts that I don't want to touch. But now, I've got my hands on another frame from the era and I'm looking to build it up with either a modern groupset or something slightly different from the 90's (there's a DA 7700 groupset I might be able to get my hands on). Any tips for a newbie builder like myself?

If I do go the full-black route with newer components, what information do I need to know?

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Nice frame, 113 pages of info here

https://www.lfgss.com/conversations/212733/

For MGOOF builds i personally like a modern groupset matched with wide modern rims and modern contact points. Compact bars generally work better with modern shifters.

Black or silver finishing kit works with that frame but i'd stick with classic looking quill stem and seatpost.

I would go/was going to go full black modern on that frame. Can't wait to see it built up however you decide!

Nice to see you here @3c70!

That was my initial thought too, it would look great with the all black treatment. I was thinking of buying a new Centaur group but they seem to be out of stock everywhere and I'm not a huge fan of the new Shimano look on these frames.

Does anyone have a black Campagnolo group they're willing to part with? Then I just need to figure out what stem to go with...

Cheers dude! Happy to see you doing a build thread for this.

I have a potenza crankset, fitted and then uninstalled. Never ridden. Though they are 39/53 and 172.5 so may not be ideal for you.

You migth be able to to find a webshop who still has a black Veloce 10sp groupset.

My opinion for MGOOF and vivid coloured frames like these: if you go for a black groupset, go all black for all other parts ( seatpost, stem, bars, wheels,...). If silver, go all silver.

I managed to source most of the parts for a Potenza group thanks to some great tips from @3c70 so I'm going to go in that direction.

I've also decided to keep the chrome fork since it's so pretty and I can always make that change later. I just need to source another black quill stem (I have a black Moser panto one on my other bike so I could always borrow that if I found a nice silver quill stem too).

Does anyone have any recommendations for a black, threaded headset for these types of builds? Also, it looks like some folks have managed to fit the Deda Piega handlebars into a quill stem, but I'd be keen for any other handlebar recommendations too.

Dead Piega will fit into a quill, (although they're are a pig to fit), but beware, they will get scratched and/or lose some anodising, so maybe go for another quill friendly compact if you can find/afford them unless you really like the feel and/or look or Piegas (I find them very comfortable and just the right size so use them)

Hey folks!

I've almost got all the bits ordered and shipped in and am going to start building the thing soon. List as of now:

Bars: Deda Piega (38cm)
Headset: Black Tange Falcon (new)
Stem: Reused black Moser stem from my current bike
Wheels: Prime RR50 v3
Drivetrain: Potenza everywhere
Seat: Fizik Antares
Post: Deda Zero

That's about it! I grabbed a new stem from @zootsuit that I'll polish up and put on my other Moser. @3c70 has been awesome helping with some parts and deliveries as well - thanks man.

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Looking forward to your build. Some oil might help in fitting the Piega through a quill stem. Depending on the type of stem, I've also had succes using a small wooden wedge to open up the stem. Be careful though, not to overdo it.

Can confirm that Piegas will go through a quill stem but it is an utter bastard of a job. Worth it though. Someone on here posted a link to a Nitto tool which is used to spread the clamp open slightly for fitting compact bars. So it’s a legit method as long as you don’t force it open too much.

Bike is going to look great. I can feel it.

I've used a cheap painters tin opening tool before. Did the job well.

Like this here

https://www.amazon.co.uk/ProDec-Paint-Tin-Opener-Tool/dp/B00555PEZ6/ref=asc_df_B00555PEZ6/?tag=googshopuk-21&linkCode=df0&hvadid=344005173028&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=10764459994518631338&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=m&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9045993&hvtargid=pla-696837604014&psc=1

^ pretty sure the Nitto tool was basically that!

I bet it was 20 quid though!

Drivetrain: Potenza everywhere

Black? Interested to see how this turns out as I'm considering Potenza/Centaur for my own neo-retro.

@Ste_S

I was considering Centaur as well until @3c70 mentioned they had an unused Potenza chainset up for grabs! But yeah, all black. Hoping it turns out as slick as it looks in my mind's eye.

Starting to throw some of the bits together! Having a little issue fitting the seatpost in though. I think it need to spend a bit of time giving it a thorough clean out.

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Looks good. Are you sure your frame is suited for 27.2 mm seatpost?

It's all put together! Only managed to take it down to the corner for a short roll but it feels FAST.

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Looks great. Good choice of parts. Keen to hear how you like Potenza.

Chromed forks are a real point-of-difference between this era bike and dull looking new frames.

Probably needs;

Cable end crimps
Is cabling a bit tight/short at the front?
Saddle, bar, hoods angle tweaks
Tyres aligned with valves
Valve caps binned

... if we’re calling it finished.

Looks really good!

Beautiful!

I did run out of crimps, well spotted!