Plans for new Thames cycling and walking bridges

I thought this would warrant its own thread. It looks as if we might be getting two new Thames Bridges for cycling and walking only. One is definitely going to happen:

http://www.standard.co.uk/news/london/winning-design-for-nine-elms-to-pimlico-thames-cycle-bridge-unveiled-a3124181.html

The other one is about the fourth revival of the old plan that Sustrans first put forward ahead of London winning the Olympic bid, for a bridge between Rotherhithe and the Isle of Dogs. Sustrans combined it with all sorts of other stuff at the time, which may have been a reason why it wasn't taken up by the Olympics. I always thought it was a great idea, but that it should have been proposed as a standalone item. It would have been a rather better legacy than some of the stuff that did happen. Anyway, the proposal is back with an interesting design featuring quite a spectacular bridge opening mechanism:

http://www.standard.co.uk/news/london/revealed-ambitious-plans-for-new-88m-bridge-across-the-river-thames-a3122241.html

Older stories on the bridge proposal at that location:

http://brockleycentral.blogspot.co.uk/2009/02/rotherhithe-canary-wharf-bridge.html
http://www.standard.co.uk/news/london/new-bridge-across-the-thames-for-cyclists-and-pedestrians-could-be-built-in-east-london-10363687.html

I think this is also going to happen. As it was always a good idea, at the right location, what was missing was just the right design, and I think they've found that now.

God, hope the east one happens - It's really needed. I like the elegance of the design too.

There's a new consultation out on more river crossings, including the umpteenth revival of another motorway bridge.

http://www.standard.co.uk/news/transport/mayor-unveils-plans-to-transform-london-with-13-new-river-crossings-a3128116.html

Still nothing that will remove the need to cross the misery that is Tower Bridge :/

Move to Hackney you dingbat.

http://www.standard.co.uk/news/london/proposed-cycle-bridge-would-be-used-daily-by-enough-people-to-fill-15-tube-trains-a3206981.html

I expect that this delay to the Nine Elms bridge is more to do with the fact that Sadiq Khan is re-arranging funding, of which he reportedly won't have a great deal, than with local protests:

http://road.cc/content/news/196430-nine-elms-cyclist-bridge-put-ice-sadiq-khan

The Canary Wharf-Rotherhithe Bridge has a web-site:

http://www.rotherhithebridge.london/

As I said above, I think this is a very good design. There's still the question of how exactly it will be linked to Canary Wharf, as the riverside is so badly planned there that there is little permeability, but I'm sure they'll think about that.

From the plan it looks like they've tried to connect it in to the Canary Wharf road system, rather than landing it on the river bank at the lower level?

That's a great idea but I'm not sure the CW group would ever let it happen.

CW needs to diversify...

... hopefully they will go for it.

Didn't CW oppose the EW cycle superhighway?

https://www.theguardian.com/cities/2014/oct/10/lobbyist-canary-wharf-london-segregated-cycle-lane-crossrail-bikes

So it would be a real change for them to support cycling infrastructure.

How are you supposed to get from CS3 into Canary Wharf proper anyway? Using the lift next to Royal China?

I'm not sure there's an official way is there? I think you just have to turn onto Westferry Road.

They should support cycle infrastructure - so many people who work in the Wharf ride in now and quite a lot come from south of the river, it would make it so much easier for them.

The design is great Oliver but does it have any chance of being built? I.e. funding?

No funding as yet, but generally if there's a good design that everybody likes, funding will be found at some point. I've thought this was a good project and idea since 2004, but until this one came along none of the designs were very good.

Obviously, with the economy in the state that it's in, it could well be some time before there's money again.

From the plan it looks like they've tried to connect it in to the Canary Wharf road system, rather than landing it on the river bank at the lower level?

That's a great idea but I'm not sure the CW group would ever let it happen.

Ah, I totally missed that drawing! Yes, those long ramps aren't very elegant or sightly yet, so I'm sure they'll still need to do some work on that aspect.

I'd doubt very much that the CW Group would oppose this one. It means much better access for any workers living south of the river, and being well-connected generally helps land values.

So it would be a real change for them to support cycling infrastructure.

This isn't 'cycling infrastructure', it's a walking and cycling bridge, with a completely different function--opening a local river crossing where one is sorely lacking at the moment. Of course you can always generalise, but the safest assumption is that CW Group would assess each project on its own merits.

I can't see the operators of the Hilton / CW Pier ferry being overwhelmed by the idea of a bridge at that point of the river.

I think the idea was at one point to abolish the ferry, but that may have been changed again since.

Thanks to @dt for spotting this and posting it in the 'Centralised space ...' thread.

Consultation on the Rotherhithe-Canary Wharf crossing:

https://consultations.tfl.gov.uk/rivercrossings/rotherhithe-canarywharf/?cid=r2cw-crossing

ah, this is a much more appropriate thread, thanks

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/transport/plans-unveiled-for-new-thames-river-crossing-between-rotherhithe-and-canary-wharf-to-reduce-jubilee-a3685791.html

Separate thread:

https://www.lfgss.com/conversations/313419/

Really annoying every time I see that cable car, it could have been bridge years ago.
Complete Boris vanity project.
I can't even use it inclusive of my oyster card. Bollox.

As posted in the other thread:

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/london/london-could-get-worlds-largest-vertical-lift-bridge-over-the-river-thames-a4103556.html

This is a shame:

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/london/mayor-s-plan-for-walking-and-cycling-bridge-shelved-over-soaring-costs-a4173086.html

There needs to be a huge protest that he is prioritising the *&$£@{?# Silvertown Tunnel over this. Hugely disappointing (and, of course, the costs have by now become absurd--you just wish that this could be done in-house again at a fraction of the cost rather than suppliers mugging the public purse).