H PLus Son Archetype rims.....or?

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  • I have recently acquired a mid-nineties Colnago Master which was in very good condition to begin with, but I have steadily been putting my stamp on it, largely making it period correct-ish & standardising the mish-mash of Campagnolo components that were on it (Record Titanium rear mech, Veloce cranks, Daytona front mech, Chorus Ergo shifters) so that it is now Record throughout.

    Currently, the wheels are Campag hubs (which I don't know how to identify) on Mavic CXP30 rims. I serviced the bearings & they feel pretty good, but I want to do the project properly, so I have managed to find NOS Record hubs - 36/32.

    I want to keep the Mavic wheels intact & with these new hubs, have a second set of wheels, which I will learn how to build myself.

    So, finally to the point! What rims would you recommend I use? They don't have to be period or racy as I will mainly use the bike when its done, for Sunday best, perhaps even a fair weather Audax.
    I'm a fairly stout chap, more barrel chested than actually fat, so I need something strong.

    I currently only have H Pus Son rims on my list.

    Will these do? Are they as brilliant as I'm led to believe? Would you recommend something else, and why?

  • TB14 - more appropriate for the bike

  • Thank you for the suggestion. As a matter of interest, what makes it more appropriate? The rim profile?

  • yep

  • TB14 don't build into such a strong wheel: Archetype is much the better rim.

    Don't forget, the mid-Nineties was when Shamal etc were the top rim, so silver Archetype wouldn't look out of place: if anything, more "correct" than shallow rims.

  • Okay, the next question is more about aesthetics; the Colnago is the blue colour with chrome precisa forks and silver Campag components.
    Which rim colour do you think would suit the bike most - the polished silver or grey? Looking at pictures online, they both look good, but some pics make the polished silver look a bit too much maybe, like they are TOO polished? But some pictures look amazing in polished.

  • If you want yo be 'period correct', isn't a mid-nineties high end bike more appropriately shod with a low-V section rim? Like a Campag Omega, Mavic cxp10/cxp12/cxp22, that sort of thing? H plus Son are all post 2008 or so. Or, if going for boxy rims, something more tapered than the very retro-looking tb14, like open pro or Ambrosio Excellence would seem more fitting.

  • oops too late on the V section rim comment.

    Everyone who rides Archetypes love em. Do it. I'd go silver cos they won't look worn later, but that's just me. And silver matches sny colour and, presumably, your components.

  • Well, it's currently got Mavic CXP30 rims on, which are V section rims. When I first saw them, I immediately thought they were reminiscent of Shamal's.
    I don't necessarily want or need it to be 100% period correct, just there or thereabouts. The new hubs will be bang on and I was thinking that the look of the Archetypes would suffice.

  • Yeah, that's what my last post was sort of concluding.

  • The black anodising will disappear like tears in rain.

    The hard grey ano is more durable, but will wear (depending on usage) and a bit of grit trapped in a brake pad will leave an unsightly scratch (don't ask me how I know).

    Silver works with everything and, I imagine, will dull soon enough.

    The benefits of wider rims are well documented, particularly if you are on the heavy side.

    There's a reason why Archetype have become the "go-to" road rim.

  • I'd go for the TB14 over archetypes mainly because Archetype's are pretty ugly and have gash writing all over the rim (albeit great on lots of other counts). The box section may not spot on period correct, but it will still be visualy sympathetic.

    If you want modern wide and strong rims other ones to look at are the new wide BHS ones and DT Swiss 240.

    Anything you build in 32/32h or 32/36h should be strong enough if you're sub 17st. If you're worried you could use stronger spokes like DT Alpine III and / or a deeper section rim around 30mm. If you want to save a bit of money then ACI double butted spokes from Cycle Basket are good and probably the cheapest decent DB spokes you can buy.

  • Silver Archetypes, for all the above reasons.

    I bought grey and it makes me sad every time I ride the bike because the brake track is now silver. It was grey until the first wet ride.

  • I have a pair of unused 32h grey ano archetypes (slight colour mismatch) that I bought for a modernised gazelle project... I'm thinking of switch to the tb14 though so they'd be for sale if you want them...

    I am coming around to the silver rim option because of brake track wear mentioned above... The other option is to hunt down a set of mavic ceramic rims but they're £££ and not wide like modern rims...

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