1950's Bates B.A.R

Up for sale is my Bates project, not yet complete.

Bates Best All Rounder frame set, pretty much top of the range at the time.

Reynolds 531 Cantiflex tubes (pretty cool stuff) and Nervex Professional lugs.

Frame size: 59ctc seat tube, 58cm ctc top tube

Frame cosmetically is in need of restoration or can be used as is.
Structurally very sound, all straight, no dings or dents, good threads.

Comes with:
Original headset and Bayliss Wiley BB which have been cleaned and re-greased.
Reynolds seat post.
Dunlop lightweight rims 32/40
Milremo Hubs 115/95 (these are a perfect fit for the frame and took forever to source) fixed/free
Ofmega cottered crankset.
4 period track cogs: 14T, 2x 16T, 17T. Lockring and spacer.
2 pairs of wing nuts.
Original seat post nut and bolt and the screws for the mudguard bosses.

It needs stem, handlebars, saddle, pedals and chain to complete.

More photos: https://www.flickr.com/photos/charliesu/sets/72157649152877432/

£490

Frame fork and headset £300

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Has the non drive side dropout been replaced?

Also has the back been cold set? How is it spaced?

Hi @Clockwise
All the dropouts are original, I lightly rubbed some anti-oxidisation polish over the frame hence the slight white discolouration on the drop outs.

The frame has not been cold set, I'm a bit OCD and don't like the idea of cold setting hence it took me ages to find the right hubs which slot in perfectly, front is spaced at 95 and rear 115.

I will also include a set of brand new 27 1-1/4 Gatorskins if anyone wants them. Plan was to build it as a beaterish fixie to use round town, hence the not so period correct tyres.

would you split the frame and group set?
I would be interested.

amazing stuff !
really like this

nice frame, wish was smaller

Does it come with a headclip?

@anidel Thanks, it's just a normal threaded headset.

@Spicep1 Hi, what would you be interested in?

Is that a Hobbs/Lytaloy lamp bracket included?

@Charlie33 I would be interested in the hubs and rims mainly. Possibly the Chainset.

Hi, I might fancy that F&F dep on £££ negotiations.

@Skülly pm'ed you

@Spicep1 I'll let you know, need frameset sold first ideally.

@falconvitesse Hi, nice spot (that thing weighs literally 2g). Yep for the full asking price that Hobbs Lytaloy lamp bracket will be included (or those new gatorskins, buyer's choice), I knew similar ones sold for £30-50 on eBay, but an exact one sold recently for $175... but that was eBay USA.

Now for sale as frame and forks with headset £300.

Thread closed - moved to eBay