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• #2
KoolStops are OK, and the salmon compound in your pic is normally seen as one of the best in the wet. Certainly I've always found it pretty good.
Worth cleaning rims and pads, and checking cables and adjustments I'd say. Cantis can be really powerful but a little unforgiving of small misadjustments in setup.
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• #3
My girlfreind's bike has koolstops cos I heard they were the best. But they're not great.
Don't know if there's any pads that reeeally do the job in heavy rain, etc.It may be worth getting LBS to make sure they're set up correctly, but mainly I think it's just a case of not going fast in the wet.
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• #4
It's worth learning to drag the pads on the rims at times while riding in the wet to help keep water off the pads and rims.
Koolstop Salmon are the best I've used.
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• #5
SwissStop Green. Better than Koolstop Salmons (and I've used both).
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• #6
Thanks for the replies. I'll try the SwissStop Green's this week.
The Salmon's are are really good in the dry, but it being a 'cross bike, It's not going to be ridden just in the dry,
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• #7
+1 on the swiss stop greens. not cheap but worth it.
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• #8
+2 but yes they're pricey.
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• #9
I use cheapo bbb techstop pads with my froggleg rip offs and they stop me just fine in wet and snow. Like jsabine said cantis are pretty fussy to set up properly so make sure thats done first before spending £££ on something else. I find feathering my braking helps a bit too.
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• #10
+2 but yes they're pricey.
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• #11
+3 for swisstop greens.
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• #12
But they are nice.
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• #14
Thanks for the replies. I'll try the SwissStop Green's this week.
The Salmon's are are really good in the dry, but it being a 'cross bike, It's not going to be ridden just in the dry,
IME there's not that much in it between the KS salmon and the SS green. The salmons are a bit softer and wear quicker, but they're quieter, create a bit less muck and maybe have the performance edge.
One important thing is to keep your rims and pads clean. Muck from the pads and from the road gets very greasy when it gets wet.
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• #15
Thanks for all the replies.
The "greasiness" of the road may have been a factor as it was the first rain we'd had in about two weeks (thanks, Australian summer).
I'll play around with the adjustments of the brakes as well.
I had a quick look online for the SwissStops, but they're pretty hard to get without paying excessive amounts in postage.
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• #16
Canti's are all about setup.
Never used froglegs specifically, but remember from riding bikes in the 1990's with canti's that they behave very differently depending on angles, toe-in and all that.
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• #17
Aren't Swiss stop green for ceramic rims though?
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• #19
My girlfreind's bike has koolstops cos I heard they were the best. But they're not great.
Don't know if there's any pads that reeeally do the job in heavy rain, etc.It may be worth getting LBS to make sure they're set up correctly, but mainly I think it's just a case of not going fast in the wet.
Sheldon has a good article on setting up cantis for the best efficiency http://sheldonbrown.com/canti-trad.html
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• #20
Nope.
so Blue is now better than Green?
throws Green equipped bikes through window
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• #21
Any suggestions on what to use to clean rims, even with new Kool-Stop my brakes are pretty poor in the wet and I suspect it could be that I've not cleaned the rims for a long, long time? Think I've just used muc-off in the past, the internet variously appears to recommend fairy liquid, alcohol, white spirit, sandpaper, wire wool, ...
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• #22
wire wool soaked in petrol. serious.
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• #23
Asda value baby wipes to clean everything, including rims - bike stops on a dime. I wouldn't want to use them on an actual baby (I think the cheap ones are purely alcohol-based whereas the expensive ones have moisturisers in them - the former are better for bikes, the latter are better for babies).
Anything soaked in petrol is one hell of a fire hazard. Diesel is much safer (you cannot ignite it under normal atmospheric pressure), although it does leave an oily residue so no good for rims (but excellent for chains... and the internals of your engine, hence why diesel engines last forever). Really, I would use neither - being around these chemicals all day is not particularly good for your long-term health (just look at the hands of any old mechanic) - baby-wipes work fine (or hosepipe + baby-wipes for a muddy MTB).
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• #24
Wire wool and petrol burns for maybe 5/6 seconds, not really a big hazard...
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• #25
The issue is storing it, not using it. Besides, if your sleeve caught fire for five or six seconds, you'd end up in hospital. Having worked in the auto industry and knowing a lot of backyard mechanics/car restorers, I've heard a lot of horror stories involving petrol, which is why I'd never use it.
Recommend me some good brake pads for my Froggleg cantis. Currently using some Koolstop Eagle Claw 2's (I think), that look like this.
They're not that good in the wet, as I discovered this morning. I slow down, but not stop quickly.
Are these the best I can do with canti's for wet weather?
The wheelset I'm running is a Giant TCX wheelset. The brake pads are about 500k's old. Maybe.