Suicide brakes/bar top leavers

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  • My wife is currently riding an old holdsworth mite bike, all original including the drop bars and standard weinman leavers.

    She is strugging a little on the towpath with constant changing of hand position to brake and was asking about the old 'suicide' brakes she had on her silhouette when she was a teenager.

    So should I pick up and fit a set of those or will she die horribly in a canal based accident if I do?

    Or can I get a set of cross leavers for the bars that let the original levers stay or.....

    Thanks
    Gareth

  • I have suicide levers on one of my bikes.
    They are fine to an extent.

    But, I would just get a pair of cross tops from Condor for £20 and thread the two brakes on the same cable. Much safer and more effective,

  • I fitted cross lever to my gf's bike for the same reason, they had totally different ratio though so need the hands of a randy scaffolder to make them work.

  • That's wierd.
    The cross tops I fitted on my gf's bike are uber sensitive.
    Normal levers on the drops are a gradiated braking action, the cross tops respond sharply to the slightest touch.

  • fairly weirdish. mine were fitted to a Raleigh Wisp Mixte circa 1985, useable though, just not very powerful

  • Are you using them with single pivot brake Alkali?

  • I was Ed, but as the bike was nicked within a week of moving to London it's rather a moot point. It survived Glasgow for a few years, come down here and whammo!

  • Make sense, WjPrince is likely to be referring to dual pivot brakes which felt quite senisitive.

  • Thanks for all the advice...looks like Condor cross tops will be the way to go unless anyone has some very cheap/free/beer suicide brakes I could collect.,.

  • I have a pair of Specialized Cross Tops you are welcome to have - look very similar to the Condor ones and in perfect working order / let me know if you want them and can arrange collection / post / pigeon

  • Thanks to Dan I have a lovely set of cross top levers. (thanks again Dan)

    Unfortunately when I offer then up to the bars the clamp diameter is too large for the old gb bars. I don't have measuring devices or tape to hand but at least 5mm visible gap at top and to left and right. Is this just too big a gap to shim and I should therefore look for different levers or can I cut up a beer can....?

    Thanks

    Gareth

  • assuming they're 31.8mm ('oversize'), and your bars are 25.4 or , you should be fine - It's not ideal, but as long as you get the right shim, keep them nice and tight and check that they aren't slipping around now and then all should be well.

  • Thanks Alfie - I have put out a plea for appropriate shims

  • Coke can shim ftw.
    You have to make sure it is a Coca Cola can though, otherwise Lord Sebastian Coe is legally entitled to kick you up the arse.

  • That might explain my problem - my attempted Stella can shim was both raggedy, razor sharp and way too thin...

  • Actually, to try and shim out 6.4mm with a can might be a bit too much.

    I would just sell the OS ones and get the right ones for your bars.
    Might be a pain now but you would never have to think about it again, unlike trying to make the 31.8's fit where you would spend a life time tightening and rotating and adjusting.

  • Might come to that - but as the original ones were gifted to me it seems off to sell them - will see if anyone has the shims first...

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