Which steel road frames / steel bikes?

I'm in the market for a new road frame, none of this carbon shit though.

Already shortlisted Indy Fab, Geekhouse and Hampsten. Anything else i should be looking at?

rourke / roberts / argos

Roberts, Dave Yates, Feather Cycles, Donhou, Rourke, Bob Jackson, Tokyo Fixed...

When I've looked into this, Rouke has always been near the top of my list. Nice frames, nice tubing options, and nice prices.

If you just want OTP. There are loads of options in a nice 853.

......or even 853 with carbon stays and forks.

Go through these for more inspiration.

http://www.lfgss.com/thread6377.html

...then rep GA2G.

Oak Cycles?

Anything else i should be looking at?

Dumping most of your short list so you're not paying IF and GeekHouse hipster tax! !! .. what about Serotta or Baum to add to Hampsten

Ultimately my choice would be a UK builder so I could go see them with my custom fitting geometry and discuss face to face etc ..

Enigma

http://www.enigmabikes.com/bike-list.html

Demon Frameworks.

Anything else i should be looking at?

Titanium.

I have this one:
http://www.condorcycles.com/2011-Range/9451-Condor-Acciaio-2011/flypage.tpl.html
Love it...

I want this one:
http://www.condorcycles.com/2011-Range/10650-Condor-Super-Acciaio-Frameset/flypage.tpl.html

I fecking loves my Guerciotti

Dumping most of your short list so you're not paying IF and GeekHouse hipster tax! !! .. what about Serotta or Baum to add to Hampsten

Ultimately my choice would be a UK builder so I could go see them with my custom fitting geometry and discuss face to face etc ..

+1

I'm not really sure why you'd drop +£1k on something like an otp GeekHouse road frame, when you could have something built by someone with a lifetime of experience who you can meet and discuss with in the UK.

But on the foreign list I'd add Pegoretti, he smashes IF and GH on the bling stakes....

...and in that price bracket if you're just after a road frame go carbon and get a LOOK.

What about Serotta or Baum to add to Hampsten

RichTheRoadie's ^

Mmm.. when I go back to Melbourne...

Gazelle get a nice NOS AA Special
Lovely frames

any reason why mercian hasn't been mentioned?

Has anyone mentioned Baum?

baum baum

pelizzoliworld.com/products/

Some very competitive prices built by a legend.

Rikulau

http://www.rikulau.com

kinfolk / vanilla

Burls

yes

Hi all

I'm looking to get a quality steel frame for touring. Something light but strong.

Is like the frame to be:

• thin tubes not wide as light as possible (being steel)
  
• must have eyelets for rack and mudguards
  
• relaxed geometry comfort over speed but I don't want to be a snail either!
  
• handmade in England or at least not mass produced very reputable
  
• built to last - basically I just want one frame for life
  
  

I'm wondering what brands and models I should be looking for?

Ideally something used but can't seem to find anything my size (I'm 5'8") in good condition. Otherwise new but hopefully accessible in London.

Cheers in advance