GPS traces used to target bikes

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  • Was forwarded an email from a resident of the salubrious suburbs yesterday - interesting and worrying:

    **Thieves are using posted GPS traces from Garmins/ smartphones to target high end road bikes:

    Worth keeping your trace off until you are at the end of your road?:**

    " Important Crime Prevention Advice to Cyclists

    The following information was put forward after a TW investigator noted the high number of cycle thefts on TW and spoke with a friend who is a cycling enthusiast:

    "I have been working on TW borough investigating bikes that have been stolen over the past couple of months or so. As there have been quite a lot of very high value and sometimes specialist custom built bikes being stolen, I have been trying to find a common denominator between them all. Last week I was speaking to one of my friends who is a very serious cyclist and also has several high value bikes himself.

    We were talking about the security of bikes and he mentioned that he had previously used a couple of websites www.strava.com and www.garminconnect.com which record the journeys made. As cyclists are quite a competitive bunch they routinely boast online about what type of bikes they have and what that have done to them. The worrying part is that he said the websites log the start and finish points of the routes taken and website users can zoom into the start and finish points which routinely are home addresses for the cyclists. It doesn't take much to then use google earth and zoom into the house to see if they have a garden shed or garage which is likely to contain the bikes.

    My friend is a retired PC so soon saw the risks and deleted his profile from the websites, but I am wondering how many of the high value bikes stolen may have appeared on one of these websites. I have started asking victims if they use these websites as I fear there must be some sort of satellite device used to pinpoint the addresses as it is often only the one house burgled in the street. I would appreciate your opinions as we have recently had a couple of successes getting bikes back to owners and want to try to stop them getting stolen in the first place if possible".

    Please all consider the above information when dealing with victims or most importantly when giving crime prevention advice to ensure people do not become victims. Also when dealing with suspects be open to the use of websites to look at locations, identify personal information about victims, or to sell stolen property. Some of these very expensive specialist cycles must be being sold back into the cycling community to realise a decent amount of money.

    "

  • sneaky cunts.

    Thanks for posting Mikey.

  • Strava has an option to not show the start/end of rides within a user defined radius. Only problem is that with enough rides it's pretty obvious the location will be somewhere in the middle. No such thing on garmin connect as far as I know.

  • But, it must be better to be one of 1000 houses rather than pinpoint it. The with google earth-good road view have the fuckers peering into your shed.

    I like : things I didn't know... that I didn't know,

    this is one of them. Handy use of the forum if you ask me.

  • I use the 'Cyclemeter' app on iphone to track longer rides - it posts to facebook along with a google maps link showing av speed for each mile and route.

    I'm going to just switch it on and off at the end of my road rather than outside my front door.

  • Give your bikes nicknames (rather than brand and model) and setup the exclusion radius thing in your Strava settings.

    There is huge problem out here in the sticks (Gloucestershire) with mountainbikers being followed home from popular trails and their homes/garages being clocked.

  • But, it must be better to be one of 1000 houses rather than pinpoint it. The with google earth-good road view have the fuckers peering into your shed.

    I like : things I didn't know... that I didn't know,

    this is one of them. Handy use of the forum if you ask me.

    wot?

  • Strava has an option to not show the start/end of rides within a user defined radius. Only problem is that with enough rides it's pretty obvious the location will be somewhere in the middle. No such thing on garmin connect as far as I know.

    Garmin Connect has a private option.
    You can make all or some of your rides private.
    Click the padlock or change your settings.
    If you change your settings to be private you will have to manually lock and rides already logged.

  • I thought it was pretty common sense not to start & stop a route map at your front doorstep online. Or am I doingitwrong?

  • i might just use my arsehole neighbour's house as my start/stop. will crack me right up when he comes back to find his door kicked in and his filthy gaff ransacked!

    this might sound harsh but he's a dirty tea leaf and he tried to nick my royce wheels so he deserves no compassion. thankyou.

  • I was followed home from school by a chap who the police said was "a known petty criminal with a history of bike theft", after they had asked him what he was up to.

  • Strava: an activity for people who really ought to get out more.

  • I meant evidence of thieves using Strava to pick targets, not evidence of overly imaginative Crackers and Columbos thinking up new FUD.

    I know what you meant.

    Do I have to write "don't be silly" too?

  • Strava: an activity for people who really ought to get out more.

    They are 'getting out'.. the evidence is there in B&W where B=bike and W=waypoints.

  • or boring wankfest
    or bollocks wishlist
    or beavers wankel
    or

  • Is Strava an activity? I thought that was cycling?

  • i might just use my arsehole neighbour's house as my start/stop. will crack me right up when he comes back to find his door kicked in and his filthy gaff ransacked!

    The gps isn't accurate enough to give someone an exact address. They'd have to stake out the place to see where you actually live. The people most at risk are the ones who put every single commute online since they'll have very regular comings and goings.

  • I thought it was pretty common sense not to start & stop a route map at your front doorstep online. Or am I doingitwrong?

    You're doingitright

    It's such obvious common sense not to post your rides from home that one is tempted to say that anybody who loses a bike as a result of this MO probably deserves it. Aside from pinpointing the location of a shed full of tasty bikes, all this publication of ride data can also show a pattern of activity useful to the less specialised burglar, i.e. every time the weather's nice on Sunday morning, the house occupant will be miles away.

  • The gps isn't accurate enough to give someone an exact address.

    O rly? Mine can reliably distinguish between two parallel paths down at Dorney Lake which are less than 3m apart, so could easily separate one gateway from another even in a fairly dense urban terrace.

  • The gps isn't accurate enough to give someone an exact address. They'd have to stake out the place to see where you actually live. The people most at risk are the ones who put every single commute online since they'll have very regular comings and goings.

    so the 50 Colnago CLX 3.0's with full Di2 that I've just registered at Boris's address then carefully cross posted to archaic latvian and estonian cyclo-tourism sites are to no avail?

  • O rly? Mine can reliably distinguish between two parallel paths down at Dorney Lake which are less than 3m apart, so could easily separate one gateway from another even in a fairly dense urban terrace.

    As far as I'm concerned, yeah. Just looked through my history on garmin connect and I don't believe there's any way someone could know which house I'm in, especially since my neighbour's door is adjacent to my own.

  • ah Right Brun,

    that's cool...

    They only have 2 properties - sheds to ransack, but they will not know which one. (although they are adjacent)

    Sleep well.

  • I use the 'Cyclemeter' app on iphone to track longer rides - it posts to facebook along with a google maps link showing av speed for each mile and route.

    I'm going to just switch it on and off at the end of my road rather than outside my front door.

    But Mikey your eight bike sized shed will still give you away

  • Strava: an activity for people who really ought to get out more.

    Innit bruv.

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