Hub & wheel question...

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  • I currently have a Phil wood track hub with only one fixed side, the thread on these are 1.370 x 24 tpi.

    What I wanted to do is apply a freewheel cog onto the fixed threads, I've checked out various forums and people say that it's do able however when I sent an email to the customer service over at Phil wood, they said that they absolutely don't recommend doing as the threads will be fucked. I'm not sure who to believe.

    I have various options

    1. man up and ride it fixed for the time being
    2. Just atleast attempt it, I'm not sure what cog I could use, so if you have any suggestions, please mention.
    3. Sell the wheel and hub and get a wheel with a flip flop hub. I was contemplating on doing so but I really want to get on my bike asap and ride. Also, I'm not sure how much I could sell my wheel and hub for, it's a **HSON rim with a phill wood hub **which is 5 months old.

    What option would be best for me? Note: I have bought a rear brake already, so i'd have to sell that too if i were to opt out of trying.

    Thanks

  • If it was me, i'd go for Option 2
    Use the same size freewheel as you fixed cog.

  • Standard ISO freewheel thread is 1.375" isn't it? Perhaps that's why they say it'll fuck the threads, since yours is 1.370". I don't know if that .005" will damage the threads - now personally I would screw it on by hand and if it feels at all like it's tight or binding, then I wouldn't do it.

    I've also heard that some sprockets (EAI specifically) have plating that is thick enough to damage the Phil threads - perhaps that is what they're concerned about.

  • Maybe Phil Wood hubs are different but I've always found that freewheel and fixed sprocket threads are the same. It is only the width of the threaded part that are different.

  • Maybe Phil Wood hubs are different but I've always found that freewheel and fixed sprocket threads are the same. It is only the width of the threaded part that are different.

    Standard ISO freewheel thread is 1.375" isn't it? Perhaps that's why they say it'll fuck the threads, since yours is 1.370". I don't know if that .005" will damage the threads - now personally I would screw it on by hand and if it feels at all like it's tight or binding, then I wouldn't do it.

    I've also heard that some sprockets (EAI specifically) have plating that is thick enough to damage the Phil threads - perhaps that is what they're concerned about.

    Could you please recommend me some? They told me that the cogs have to be non plated as it'll damage the threads. They also told me not to use surly or east-asia (i think it's called) cogs as they're too thick. I'm going to bricklane on sunday so I'll probably check it out.

  • I've just picked up a freewheel cog off brick lane bikes after they told me it's fine. The mechanic leader said that I should trust him... Anyone think I shouldn't?

  • Maybe Phil Wood hubs are different but I've always found that freewheel and fixed sprocket threads are the same. It is only the width of the threaded part that are different.
    double width cogs

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