Head set races

im stripping my bike for a spray, but the headset top and bottom race i cannot get out, do i need tools? i tried tapping it with a flat head and hammer w wd40, but it wont budge, do i need to go to a shop?
and if i wana reuse it, will i need tools to put it back or can i just tap them with a block of timber?
thanks
kirk

get a 400mm length of 22mm copper central heating pipe, cut 150mm cross slots in it, then flare these 4 ends out slightly. secure the frame at the lugs or headtube. insert the tool into headtube and engage the 4 ends against cup lip. give a smartish tap or two with a 1 or 1.5lb hammer and the cup will drop out

turn headtube round and resecure, repeat on remaining cup

use the end of a large allen key at an angle and hammer it down.

its reli tight, and i dont have tools to cut copper pipe, so prob a good idea to go to lbs?

can anyone give me a hand on removing the races? really dont want to pay a shop to do this, i asked them and they told me a tenner!

thanks

kirk

You don't need two threads.

[ame="http://www.google.co.uk/search?gcx=w&ix=c2&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8&q=removing+headset+races"]removing headset races - Google Search[/ame]

The forks:

The question:

How do I get the race off the above fork, without damaging anything, and then put it on this one:

It looks like something very narrow would be needed- such as a knife blade, and then leverage.

This however sounds like a bad idea on a fully carbon fork.

Help!

as per other thread, type "crown race removal" into google

Just be gentle and lever it out with a flat bladed screw-driver. It should come off relatively easily.

I get mine out with a long flat blade screwdriver and a rubber mallet. A good tap should do it. If the cups are that tight, getting them back might be a problem. If you're respraying, make sure to trim excess paint off the head tube. You need a headset press to put the cups back but you could make one with a length of threaded rod, two big nylon washers, two metal washers and two big nuts. Do one at a time and carefully. Just tighten the whole apparatus until the cup pops in.

What Bear said to get the crown race off. Is it an unbroken ring? Some races have a break in them which makes installation easier. If it's a full one you could drop a bit of plastic pipe over the steerer and tap the race down with a rubber mallet.

Save yourself a load of grief and hassle, take it to your LBS and have them do it for <£5

I think 9am Wednesday morning will see me stood outside Brixton Cycles.

after enless amount of trying, i took it to the shop and the dude was nice enough to charge me a small amount ££ , sigh

I have the proper Park tools for this. Bring me beer and I'll do it for you.

damnnn...mabbe i can use some help putting it back on, but i'll see then
cheers
kirk