Fixed Wheel touring frame advice

Hey everyone, planning on touring England a lot this year ,hopefully leading up to JOGLE in August.

I ride a 2009 fuji track F+F with everything else changed to parts i preferred.

Now, i like the bike and i could ride that geo fine long distance, but with no eyelets anywhere on the bike, i am considering moving all my nice bits onto a new frame for this coming year.

I have had a look around and seen a few nice frames with track ends and eyelets but i thought id ask around to see if there are any ones that have stood out to any forum members. Forks are not a problem.

What setups have work well/not so well for you fixed tourers out there?

TL;DR: Want a nice frame with track ends and eyelets that is fairly light.

Oh, im 6ft and fit a 57-58cm.

Thanks.

Have you searched? If so what phrases have you used? I may sound rude but this has come up several times.

like this http://www.lfgss.com/search.php?searchid=5424987

I would look a Audax frames or old steel frames with all the trimmings and semi horizontal drop outs.

Yeah, long dropouts will make this easier and cheaper. Oh, and gears. ;)

Add p-clip so you can able to mount a rear rack and mudguard if you want to use your current frame.

sound like you're looking for something like this;

I did have a search, a lot of touring questions but nothing this specific, also that search link has expired, so i did UTFS and check out what it recommended i look at before i posted.

Very nice bike there, the reason i am looking for epecially long track ends is that i ride double fixed,and im hoping to be able to get a good amount of difference between gears on the same chain, i may take a spare chain but it is not something i want to be changing a lot.

I have decided to ride it fixed as i feel i will definitely raise more money that way, cause is as of now undecided, by the way.

Was thinking of going cheaper so if my bike does get stolen at any time when im sleeping or something it wont convince me to end my life. joking of course.

rbhorizon, did you visit the LFGSS stall at the last Earls Court Cycle Show?

Afraid i didn't mate, why'd you ask? Still need to speak to my mate joe about getting those bars off you , but he went back to uni without visiting me (bastard).

Very nice bike there, the reason i am looking for epecially long track ends is that i ride double fixed,and im hoping to be able to get a good amount of difference between gears on the same chain, i may take a spare chain but it is not something i want to be changing a lot.

Like everyone said, an old audax bike is your best bet, especially when they have a long horizontal drop out (of which is definitely more useful than track end - easier to take off with mudguard and to flip the wheel).

I only asked because someone came and asked us advice on steel touring bikes, and he had a fuji track.
I could probably send you them if you want. I've got loads of spare boxes at the moment.

Ed- Yeah i can see that being usefull, ill look around, thanks.

Sumo- Yeah we might have to, shame as he lives 10 minutes from you too, i may just ride up at some point as part of my training.

Thanks for suggestions, have read the other touring advice threads and it does have some good general info.

Surly crosscheck! its an awesome frame, long horizontal dropouts perfect for fixed, you could then run it geared if you chose to, its got mudgaurd eyelets, rack mounts and v brake mounts.
Get this!

I'd go for the Surly Troll - proper "everything" frame and if you're minted and end up doing some real touring, yuuo can slap a Rohloff on it:

http://surlybikes.com/frames/troll_frame/

I did have a search, a lot of touring questions but nothing this specific, also that search link has expired, so i did UTFS and check out what it recommended i look at before i posted.

Not very well clearly. Put fixed touring into the search bar a thread comes up called "Touring on fixed".

Bilmey, that was easy;

http://www.lfgss.com/thread17964.html

Surly crosscheck! its an awesome frame, long horizontal dropouts perfect for fixed, you could then run it geared if you chose to, its got mudgaurd eyelets, rack mounts and v brake mounts.
Get this!

^This
I have one and love it, in the summer I run an Alfine hub gear, in the winter I run it fixed or SS with full mudguards, wonderful do everything bike.

Why no Alfine in the winter?

On an unrelated news, I got the Alfine 11, will bring it round to South soon.

Yeah but I was asking for specific frame advice! Ive done long distance on a fixed wheel, so its obviously possible. i know what gear sizes I want, and I wont be using a trailer so Ives' thread did not cover what I wanted to ask.

I was asking if anyone could suggest any notably good touring frame, preferably from personal experience.

The surely frames DO look very nice, unfortunately I am far from minted.

I am selling a lot of my musical equipment to fund these rides and a small percentage will go toward the forum, so go easy lads!

Why no Alfine in the winter?

On an unrelated news, I got the Alfine 11, will bring it round to South soon.

Ed this is a sore subject, I will explain when I see you next - whats the Alfine 11 like?

I was asking if anyone could suggest any notably good touring frame...

You mean the Surly and the Condor weren't touring frame?

Go for the Crosscheck, really is the best choice for a fixed touring frame;

The other option is the Bob Jackson Vigorelli, which is more like a path racer than track (enough clearance for fat tyres and mudguard, and comfortable geo), you can specify eyelit for rack and mudguard.

I had one, it was a comfortable bike, especially with a saddlebag, but no longer have it as it was too long for me;

(didn't choose mudguard and rear rack mount which is a shame).

The other option as well as being affordable is the excellent On-one Pompino, again suitable for touring with it's large clearance, mudguard eyelit, canti mount and relaxed geo frame;

The pompino ride very stable which is very nice on a long tour.

Yeah but I was asking for specific frame advice! Ive done long distance on a fixed wheel, so its obviously possible. i know what gear sizes I want, and I wont be using a trailer so Ives' thread did not cover what I wanted to ask.

Actually, the topic is useful to find a way to make your current bike more doable for touring, especially when they talk about how useful having two brakes instead of one be while they were touring (especially downhill), also they retrofitted their bike to make the tour doable;

Something that you can do on your Fuji.

Yeah I saw that, looks like a great idea, though they mentioned not being able to stand for hill climbs was a problem..but im not quite sure how it affects that.

And I wasnt saying the Surly and Condor were not good suggestions, they definitely are. I was just explaining why I made this thread despite the other thread existing, to ask personally for frames that have served others well.

I can braze, and I am considering adding eyelets to the Fuji, though there Cross check seems to be what I am after, ill have to see if I can afford a new frame or modify what I have.

I guess I'm hoping on keeping weight down, but am I right in assuming the last thing I need to worry about is the weight of my bike?

I guess packing carefully is more important at this point.

well, keeping the bike (including luggage) as light as possible is usually advised but it'll never going to be as light as your Fuji.

What I'm saying is that you shouldn't worry too much about it, just worry about choosing the right equipment instead.

don't forget that with the adden weight, your current gearing on your fuji might be a bit high.

Oh yes, though this might be of interested to you;

http://www.tout-terrain.de/2/products/panniers---racks/mountainbike-touring/sherpa/sherpa.html

Oh yes! That looks Perfect! Thanks for that, just what i'll need.

With that i think i could stay pretty light with clip on mudguards.

I will be putting a front and rear brake, i usually ride this bike without brakes.

I have a lot of time to decide what ill do about gearing, quite heavy myself and will possibly do some training with an over weighted bike to see what i can and cant manage.

Cheers Ed, you've been very helpful.