LOOK 464 - experience?

Did a search on this and found nothing.

Considering building up a decent aluminium frame to ride down to herne hill (hopefully it's still there when I get back) flip the wheel and bring it onto the track.

Does anyone have any experience with this frame?
Are there much better aluminum alternatives?
Is the idea of riding it down to HH and flipping the wheel retarded or completely doable?

Also noticed that it seems a little overpriced here in the UK at 699gbp compared to its U.S $799 pricing, anyone know a more economical stockist?
http://www.velodromeshop.org.uk/index.php?p=product&id=875

Any info,
cheers in advance

Got mine here: http://www.cyclelane.co.uk/products.php?plid=m2b0s198p3489

£565 delivered, and came with a few freebies thrown in too.

£700 for a Look Al track frame and fork.

Stroll on.

Olsen, mdcc_tester have one as far as I know, and he's probably the most logical person to speak to.

If he own one, then LOOK is doing something right.

Olsen, mdcc_tester have one as far as I know, and he's probably the most logical person to speak to.

If he own one, then LOOK is doing something right.

+1 this is indeed factual information.

I have one. Worth mentionning that there's no toe-overlap and head tube angle is a reasonnable 73.5 degrees. The ride is harsh but as a whole the bike is perfectly rideable on the road. I did 50 miles on it on Friday and I managed just fine.
Regarding the price, I very much doubt anyone paid full RRP.

wicked. I shall be looking into purchasing one in the new year providing I can convince the misses to accept yet another bike into our home.

I have one and love it. Ride it most days. Paid nowhere near the current 900 srp for it though.

I find it strange that it is made of 6061 aluminium, that's the same as my visp. Most high end alumnium bikes go for 7000 series.

One question for those with a 464; do you get any noise from the headset? I've done mine up as according to the book (first frame with an integrated headset) and it feels good, no play, good gaps (good as in correct, not large) at the top and bottom of the head tube. Yet when I'm riding, if I come across a crack in the road, bump or anything, when the front wheel hits it, I get a metallic chink/clink sound. It sounds like the bearings knocking against the frame, but the whole thing is done up tight with no play so I can't see how that can be.

price does seem rather high for what it is.

One question for those with a 464; do you get any noise from the headset? I've done mine up as according to the book (first frame with an integrated headset) and it feels good, no play, good gaps (good as in correct, not large) at the top and bottom of the head tube. Yet when I'm riding, if I come across a crack in the road, bump or anything, when the front wheel hits it, I get a metallic chink/clink sound. It sounds like the bearings knocking against the frame, but the whole thing is done up tight with no play so I can't see how that can be.

That's normal for some bikes with integrated headsets. I had one that did that and was convinced I was doing irreparable damage to the frame and/or bearings every time I hit a bump. I never did.

Mine is silent. Smeared a little grease on it though.

I know there was a pretty lengthy discussion about this, but there is 2 of these frames right? a tarck one a 'street' one?
If one comes up in an XL I'd be all over it!
They are expensive but like what has been said before mdcc has one, and he know. He just knows.

Anything that is chinking and clinking when you go over a bump has some sort of headset problem. Properly sized, fitted and adjusted, they shouldn't do that.

I know there was a pretty lengthy discussion about this, but there is 2 of these frames right? a tarck one a 'street' one?
If one comes up in an XL I'd be all over it!
They are expensive but like what has been said before mdcc has one, and he know. He just knows.

Yeah there are drilled or undrilled models.

The frame sizing seems slightly misleading tho as TT comes in at 58cm CC and ST 59cm C-T on their "56cm" model, or am I missing something?

have to agree with bigtwin. i would suggest its not in right. have you stripped it and reinstalled?

i ride a medium and im 6'1". and its pretty good.

Not going to lie, I really really want one of these... I get the feeling though that despite it being a Look and super snazzy it might be a disappointment compared to my Fort 7005...

I've disassembled and reassembled the headset 3 times now, always the same. Nothing looks to be out of order when it's apart; no marks on the bearings, frame etc where it looks as though something could have been moving, rubbing or knocking. I've been taking it very easy on it until I can get it sorted. I think I'm going to have to pop into my lbs and see if they can do anything different.

Officially there are two frame, the Track and Fixie, though it seems from discussions in other threads, it's a toss up as to what you'll receive. Supposedly the Track has no drillings at all, though nobody has seen on without the drilled fork. The Fixie either has a small pilot hole at the rear that needs to be drilled out to take a brake or no horizontal drilling in the bridge, but a small one running perpendicular to the direction you'd expect.

As for sizing, they really are a lot bigger than you'd expect. I'm 6'6" and ride a 63" Roll, 60cm VN MIstral, 61cm Koga Record Pro and a 56cm 464!

Really? I thought I was an Xl maybe L with Look bikes from previous experience. That seems kind of crazy. I'd be tempted to say that headset is fine, if you can't see a problem and Andy has had similar experiences reckon it should be cool. Not sure what the wisdom is of greasing up a brand new headset?

As for sizing, they really are a lot bigger than you'd expect. I'm 6'6" and ride a 63" Roll, 60cm VN MIstral, 61cm Koga Record Pro and a 56cm 464!

Jesus that's bananarama. Looks like i'll be safe with the 56 then

Olsen, if your current bike have a 58cm TT and find that fit well (with 100-110mm stem), then the 56 will be fine for you.

top tube length is more important than seat tube (as I've found out the hard way).

im not saying the headsets swimming in grease, but a little smear is always prudent. it can help it all settle in nicely. 10 years working in an lbs taught me that. i would possibly say that maybe it isnt the headset making your noise. noises can often sound like theyre coming from one place but actually theyre coming from somewhere else. just a thought.