Zero float cleats

I need to buy some new look delta cleats and I've always used the red ones (9 degrees of float) but I was considering/musing over getting the Black cleats that have no float. Anything I should be aware of/reasons why this is a good or bad idea?

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My first set of spds had zero float. They were ok but it took an age to get them set up correctly. The slightest bit out killed my knees. Some people can never get it right as they need a little movement as they pedal.

I've just gone in the opposite direction (moved from 7 degrees to 13) after advice from my physio. If you can get them set up properly, go for it.

I use both depending on what's on offer at the time; it's a non issue, takes a few mins to set up, unless you have special needs.

Plus, some pattern companies use the colours the other way around, so watch out for that if you aren't buying OEM.

float is good for you, zero float cleats are for racing as they are considered to be more efficient, stick with floated cleats, your knees will thank you.

If you don't shuffle your feet around when riding then you may as well get them.

Float is for MTB'ers

float is good for you, stick with floated cleats, your knees will thank you.

Why?

I went from old fashioned slotted cleats ( so zero float effectively) to clipless and was advised to start with cleats with I think 7* of float. On fixed wheel I found I could not rotate my foot enough to disengage the cleat without track standing without my disengaging foot at 6 o'clock. Going to zero degrees float has solved the problem without introducing any other issues with knees etc.

Why?

because i said so.

That makes it all so much clearer.

As said above, unless you do strange stuff with your legs when you ride, zero float is un problematic, and the clip out is much nicer.

Float is much better for your knees. Even if your cleats feel fine in their position on short rides, damage is still being done! Putting that much force through your knee joint at a different angle than the joint is designed to operate causes uneven wear as the force is focussed on a smaller surface area.

I suffer from juvenile arthritis and my physio advises me that if I still want to be walkenging in 20 years I'd better switch to more float in my pedals and raise the inner-leg sides of the sole to further mimic the force vectors of walking and running.

If you have "leg issues", then obviously get them checked out. But it's vacuous nonsense to assert that "no float is bad for you and float is better".

About as much use as my saying I've been using no float for years with no problems.

Granted, I have leg issues, but the benefit of float are well documented, I don't think anyone needs the risk for the tiny efficiency advantage.

And what "risk" would that be? The £6 if one doesn't like them?

no, the risk of future knee problems

whatever floats your boat huhuhu...

i find my feet assume different positions at different types of riding and situations. Cornering for example i like to wiggle my feet inwards out of harms way, pointless i know but i like it... so float is good i feel.

What i don't like is the foot tilting laterally(rocking outwards) during the power stroke, which is the problem that bothers me particularly with spd and atacs, hence why road cleats feel massively superior to me at the moment, because it completely eliminates it.

Zero float, i do want to try it regardless.

Bigtwin, if you ride consistently with I'll set up cleats you put undue strain on your knees, float will reduce this as there is a greater margin for error, by also float allows movements in your knee in the whole pedal stroke.

Just because you do something and get away with it, it doesn't make the good advice of everyone else incorrect.

Float is better.

If you compete I can see how zero float will be of benefit.

For road riding I like a pedal/cleat set-up that strongly resists twisting. I doubt I need it as I barely move my feet in or out, and have a very consistant pedal stroke. But its nice to feel the pedals are helping to put your feet were you want them. If I had zero float I doubt I would notice it, so dont bother.

My point being that if zero float effects your pedal stroke, you should'nt use it (unless racing maybe?). Yet if it dosent effect your stroke, then why use it?

(I have Bebops (uber free float) for commuting/ general bike use though. As I agree with citygent.)