Alu single speed track frame. suggestions?

im looking to buy a new frame for my single speed set up soonish,
looked into it and it seems to be a weigh up between a leader or a dolan pre cursa, but i was wondering if there areany decent alloy track frames out there that are drilled for a rear brake? budget would be limited 300 squid max (though id like to pay alot less!)

please save me from the curse of the chain tensioner! any help v appriciated.

Why not go fixed and just have a front brake? Also, why would a chain tensioner even be considered on a track frame?

http://www.lfgss.com/thread527-2.html

Why a track frame with a back brake?

Nelson track.

The Nelson is a very well regarded and popular choice. Bargain too.

Ooooops. TV got in the way of my reply. I was beaten to it by half an hour. ;)

go vintage, go vitus 979!

ok let me clear something up, I RIDE SINGLE SPEED. thus i do not need suggestions like 'why not go fixed' otherwise i wouldnt have made this thread. i want a track frame with rear brake so that i can ride single speed without having to use a chain tensioner, as most modern alloy frames have vertical dropouts.
anyways thanks for the suggestions those who understood what i was asking for, i shall check out the link pronto!

My Dolan is nice. No back brake mind, but if they do one with that option yours might be nice too.

I had a Nelson and it is a nice frameset for £200 but the paintjob is horrible. It was also designed around very small tyres for some reason and the rear tyre rubs on the brake bridge when put towards the front of track end so I had to file away the bottom part of the bridge around the hole (not good if using it for a brake!) as I used 25c.

whats the wieght like on the nelson?

http://www.nelsoncycles.co.uk/Frames.htm

http://www.cyclebasket.com/products.php?plid=m4b1s213p628

Can't find a weight I'm afraid.

It was also designed around very small tyres for some reason........

errrrr, could that be because it's a TRACK bike? As in, er, designed to ride on the track?
#retires to track section to grump with RPM#

errrrr, could that be because it's a TRACK bike? As in, er, designed to ride on the track?

I believe people use 23c tyres on the track (you can confirm with RPM while you are grumping) and a 23c tyre is too big to allow the wheel to go much above halfway up the track end.
But the reason the tyre rubs is because the bridge has a square section in the middle to accomodate the brake. It that wasn't there it wouldn't rub as I only had to file the square flush with the rest of the bridge.

So if it's a track bike, designed solely for the track then why does it even have a brake bridge!

Would a "brake bridge" in this case, actually be a seatstay strengthener/reinforcer?

I'm only asking.

I had a Nelson... I used 25c.

I believe people use 23c tyres on the track (you can confirm with RPM while you are grumping) and a 23c tyre is too big...!

... But the reason the tyre rubs is because the bridge has a square section in the middle to accomodate the brake. It that wasn't there it wouldn't rub as I only had to file the square flush with the rest of the bridge...

Would a "brake bridge" in this case, actually be a seatstay strengthener/reinforcer?...

Reading fails alround then ;)

So kerley - was it especially heavy, or just a 'normal' sort of weight?

alloy does not mean aluminium for fuck sake.

#retires to materials section to grump on own#

I also tried it with 23c and had to file it to work at all with 25c. 23c is also too large!
And yes the brake bridge could be a strengthener but the fact it has a flattened square drilled area means it is for brakes.
Wish I hadn't bothered pointing it out now, was only trying to warn any potential buyers FFS.

Reading fails alround then ;)

So kerley - was it especially heavy, or just a 'normal' sort of weight?

It was average for nothing special alu alloy, around 1550g for a 53cm IIRC.

What is it to you

I could make you one but sadly it would be more than £300

Ah... cheers I assumed you had me on ignor ;)

Just wondered, bc allot of the cheaper aluminum alloy frames tend to be a bit chubby. Oh and for the record the brigde thing is worth pointing out, its a design flaw, bit like this:

kerley, I'm guessing its meant to be a strengthener first and foremost. Sprinters put enough power through their bike frames to cause considerable stress to the seatstays. The lowest a strengthener could be placed, would be just where a traditional brake bridge sits.

Track frames may be ridden on the road, but they were not meant for that purpose.

Common, it's a £200 frame! If Colnago blag the bridges from their road bikes, what are the odds Nelson don't? It's working to a budget not over enginering.

This is now gettting very silly.