BP Oil spill

Well it seems like Obama ( you know the chap we all used to like when he went head to head against George W ) has said that the oil spill is like and environmental 9/11
Does that mean we'll be being invaded illegally by American troops once the summers heat has begun to wain a little ? Will our women and children be slaughtered by the GI's ? Will all free thinking people be locked up in Guantanamo Bay Mk.2 ( a detention centre just near Keele Services ? )

Or am I getting a bit carried away ? Or is Obama ?

9/11 was the worst terrorist attack in the US and the BP oil spill looks to be worst environmental disaster in the US. I think the comparison stands as reasonable albeit not one that I would choose to make (something too close to Godwining for my liking). People away from the affected areas will find it hard to place some perspective on this and comparitive analogy helps with this.

I think an expectation of the same foreign policy practice is a tad disingenuous. That said, if the same focus and determination is put on cleaning up this mess, key sensitive environmental areas of the US may just manage to survive this, which would be a good thing.

We are kind of lucky this happened where it did.

We are at the point where governments & oil companies are eyeing up places like the amazon rainforest as serious major sources of oil. When you hear debates on TV about peak oil, most of the people go on about how theres plenty of oil "its just a little harder to get".

This disaster happened in just the right place that all the people that mattered (americans) were appalled. It has set a mental and perhaps legal precedent for being weary of such activities, public/popular opinion may now be more willing to accept that we need to start preparing to use less oil now. Instead of drilling it out of some of the worlds most spectacular/important ecosystems and/or poorer countries.

The U.S companies would usually be the ones screwing someone over in south america or nigeria, this gives the public there a taste of what its like.

The people of the gulf of mexico/florida/new orleans will be bringing a legal case of monstrous proportions against BP. They will have the support of the whole U.S and the goverment, they will want to hang B.P out to dry and make an example/scapegoat out of them.

This may create strong legal precedents which can be used against mineral exploration in other places.

This was part of BP's publicity campaign in 1999. Beautifully prophetic:

He didnt really say that though...

“In the same way that our view of our vulnerabilities and our foreign policy was shaped profoundly by 9/11,” the president said in an Oval Office interview on Friday, “I think this disaster is going to shape how we think about the environment and energy for many years to come.”

BP's share price is too tempting at the moment. If only I had some cash-monies to invest.

We are kind of lucky this happened where it did.

We are at the point where governments & oil companies are eyeing up places like the amazon rainforest as serious major sources of oil. When you hear debates on TV about peak oil, most of the people go on about how theres plenty of oil "its just a little harder to get".

This disaster happened in just the right place that all the people that mattered (americans) were appalled. It has set a mental and perhaps legal precedent for being weary of such activities, public/popular opinion may now be more willing to accept that we need to start preparing to use less oil now. Instead of drilling it out of some of the worlds most spectacular/important ecosystems and/or poorer countries.

The U.S companies would usually be the ones screwing someone over in south america or nigeria, this gives the public there a taste of what its like.

The people of the gulf of mexico/florida/new orleans will be bringing a legal case of monstrous proportions against BP. They will have the support of the whole U.S and the goverment, they will want to hang B.P out to dry and make an example/scapegoat out of them.

This may create strong legal precedents which can be used against mineral exploration in other places.

Bollocks

2 weeks after the BP explosion, there was a major oil spill in the Niger Delta (Exxon) which polluted to the tune of a million gallons. The west doesn't give a shit any more now than they did before.

http://www.newstatesman.com/blogs/the-staggers/2010/06/oil-delta-world-spilled
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/may/30/oil-spills-nigeria-niger-delta-shell

These cams are amazin

http://www.bp.com/genericarticle.do?categoryId=9033572&contentId=7062605

Speculation in "fringe knowledge" circles that the cameras are looped too.

http://newsflavor.com/world/usa-canada/bp-lies-again-live-gulf-oil-spill-web-camera-is-a-loop/

Some interesting stuff on the chemical dispersants being used:

http://blog.alexanderhiggins.com/2010/06/05/amount-neurotoxin-pesticide-corexit-sprayed-bp-tops-1-million-gallons/

Obama ( you know the chap we all used to like when he went head to head against George W )

Speak for yourself! Not everyone is fickle; I still like him.

Or are you being facetious?

Or am I getting a bit carried away ?

Yes.

He didnt really say that though...

“In the same way that our view of our vulnerabilities and our foreign policy was shaped profoundly by 9/11,” the president said in an Oval Office interview on Friday, “I think this disaster is going to shape how we think about the environment and energy for many years to come.”

Sounds fair enough to me.

facetious - yes
carried away - yes
scared daily mail reader ( who is now stocking up tins in the larder for the upcoming war with america ) - yes
a scared monger - yes

BP's share price is too tempting at the moment. If only I had some cash-monies to invest.

U can borrow sum off of me if u like, I got bare dollar, get me?

YouTube- Sam Champion and Philippe Cousteau Jr. diving into the Oil Spill

YouTube- BP Spills Coffee

exxon
the valdeez
nigeria
surely obama should be looking a bit closer to hoime before he has a dig at us
why didn't the good lord make haliburton responsible for the big spill their valve failing or something like that
how just and righteous would that have been

40% of BP shares are owned by individuals/institutions in the US.

I still don't get why they didn't/can't sink another line right next to it. Surely that would make the leak more managable. If not, tap it again and again until it does.
Or, maybe this will excuse any government supported pensions being paid in future. We'll all be like well, they tried their hardest under terrible circumstances....oh, yes. it was the environmental 9/11.

FFS. sort it out. and what about the other countries that own BP? BP hasn't been a british company for years.

it is British, it's our largest corporation and is based here. People in other countries have shares yes, and it is no longer called British Petroleum but its registered and ran predominantly from British soil

I meant solely British, as in...er...urm...you know one of those pre-Thatcher ones. We only have a 1% majority, don't we? Or (when directing blame) does it not matter about other investors.

I still don't get why they didn't/can't sink another line right next to it. Surely that would make the leak more managable. If not, tap it again and again until it does.
Or, maybe this will excuse any government supported pensions being paid in future. We'll all be like well, they tried their hardest under terrible circumstances....oh, yes. it was the environmental 9/11.

FFS. sort it out. and what about the other countries that own BP? BP hasn't been a british company for years.

They are driling 2 relief wells which is percieved to be the most effective method of stemming the flow, but they will not be completed until August.

There is a very interesting comparison in this article to the Ixtoc 1 leak in the gulf in the late 70's. It was a larger leak and took 9 months to cap.

http://sweetness-light.com/archive/anyone-remember-mexicos-ixtoc-i-leak
http://www.stopaforusrep.com/blog/69-oilspill

why does it matter if it's british. it still has nothing to do with me.

I matters a lot. UK pension funds have exposure to BP, almost without exception.

9 months, shit, the footage above is horrific, another 7 months would be devastating.

What a fuck up.