Useless Cycle Tools

Looking for a decent tool set since I just moved outta home and can't nick my dad's tools anymore and I have just found this while browsing wiggle ....

http://www.wiggle.co.uk/p/cycle/7/Park_Tools_Tyre_Seating_Tool/5360013543/

Ermmm, Whenever I stick on a tyre I use my hands to seat it properly and I am the sort of bloke who has skinny little computer programmer arms ... surely this is pointless and at £55 quid. Park Tools are taking the piss surely??

Pump wrench (£5) with some bits of plate welded on to do an needless job, all for £55????
Yes , a pointless piss take.

Isn't this aimed at tubeless tires? They normally have a very tight bead. This is mtbs, not roadies...

Still better off using soapy water.

chain whip... = old chain and vice

Lockring tools are pointless. Well that seems to be the opinion of a lot of users on here considering the number of 'My hub's fucked' threads.

Chain whips and lockring tools are not useless FFS. Some people struggle to perform rudimentary mechanical operations with the necessary care and understanding, that's all.

99 percent of tyre levers are shit. Ive found (and we are talking workshop use with 5 different mechanics here) that the more claims made by the manufacturer, the shitter the lever. Same goes for magazing tests. If the magazines really rate the new wunderlever, ans especially if they give them away with subscriptions, you know its headed straight for the bin!
Moped tyre levers, steel, for workshop use, small alloy for emergency toolkit, but most of the time you wont need them if youve learned the proper ways.
(If this was a Brompton forum, id be recommending motorcycle levers with 6 foot long extensions!)

(If this was a Brompton forum, id be recommending motorcycle levers with 6 foot long extensions!)

Why? Deep beads or weak riders?...

Cheap forks make the best tyre levers. The metal is way softer than the rim so you won't damage it, and the tines of the fork hook behind the spokes. They have to be really really cheap though, like Asda own brand. Expensive ones are too hard.

Other than that, I do usually buy Park tools.

Till I got to the end of your post I thought you meant bike forks and I was boggling!

Lol. Yes I should clarify I meat forks for eating with. Although I suppose if you were a giant you could also use bike forks for eating with.

Till I got to the end of your post I thought you meant bike forks and I was boggling!

This also happened to me too as well.

I find the Park Tools website pretty annoying, thanks to the way it suggests using the Park Tool GR73 genital retainer to prevent your penis catching in your drivetrain while maintaining it, etc, etc. I always open an article and think "well, I might as well just buy a new bike instead of all those incredibly specific and expensive tools."

I also didn't like my Park Tool crank extractor breaking.

I also don't like my flatmate coughing like that. I think she's dying.

You definitely want good tools when it's a bit parky, to get the job done quickly.

He started my favourite thread (so far) on the forum.

Bang!

I find the Park Tools website pretty annoying, thanks to the way it suggests using the Park Tool GR73 genital retainer to prevent your penis catching in your drivetrain while maintaining it, etc, etc. I always open an article and think "well, I might as well just buy a new bike instead of all those incredibly specific and expensive tools."

Repped!

Any one got a GR73 I could borrow? Mine's broken...

Repped!

Repped indeed!

Bang!

You want the 'useless cycle weapons' thread.

BigBen.
Bromptons and other titchy wheels (I used to have a thing for Moultons and still have a Brommie) have less length of bead to 'give' when you pull on it, and the difference between berad diameter and rim outer diameter is proportionately greater (the depth of the rim wall is a bigger percentage) so you have to pull it over the equivalent, on a big wheel, of a massively deep rim flange.
I know that made f*** all sense, but its bin a long day.

those pliers for seating the tyres are designed for burly double ply DH tyres with a big ridge of rubber to prevent pinch flats , when i'm fitting my biggest DH tyres i just pump them to 40psi then grip the tyre in the vice and work my way round seating the bead , i use this set of park tyre levers , TL5 , had them for ages , weigh a ton , indestrictible , but perfect shape for scooping those tight beads out of the rim without pinching the tube

That tyre seating tool is more of a work shop tool TBH. Bit over kill for a pair of tyres (unless chunky DH^). But you'd be grateful if you'd been given the job of mounting a dozen.

Things like chainwhips,specific headset spanners, pedal spanners, and such. May seem overly specific, but they promote the correct use of torque, and reduce the likelyhood of sliping and scratching something.

My Tacx chainwhip is fucking useless.
Whilst trying to remove the cogs from my back wheel the fucking thing bent!
It is now an ex-chainwhip.

I'm going to stick to rotafixing