Traffic Lights – Sequence Timing

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  • Some of the traffic lights in London seem to have their sequences timed inappropriately/dangerously.

    2 examples:

    • northeastbound on Shaftesbury Avenue, oncoming traffic swinging towards me from Bloomsbury St. I went through on amber, nearly got squeezed out by oncoming traffic as I reached far side of junction.

    • Eastbound on Sidmouth St, turning right onto Grays Inn Rd. Through on amber, barely made it half way across the road before I'm avoiding a collision.

    I realise some pricks are probably pre-empting the lights, but surely this should be taken into consideration by TFL (it is TFL, isn't it?) when programming the sequence.

    I think a longer period of red in both directions is needed - something like 2 seconds, rather than this instantaneous switch.

    I'm typically going through these junctions ~20mph, most definitely well before the change to red, so I'd be even more concerned for slower moving bikes in the same situation.

    Maybe one of our LCC people can shed some light on whether this issue is on any agenda…

  • that 2 second lag will put a real scupper to my trackstanding... im out.

  • Oh, so no-one else has noticed this :/

  • I had thought that the light timing had reduced recently, then thought that it must just be in my head.

  • I have noticed this too, I can't remember exact location but it's always a bit scary especially when it's slippery so you don't want to lay down the power(TM).

    I think it would be hard to get the timing changed as it's all planed and linked to maximaise traffic flow, I'm not sure they would except such changes to the traffic management, although I think if it was universal it may not make a difference?

  • It's not just me that thinks it's getting worse then. Good.

    Oliver Schick, could you raise this issue immediately, please? You can use puns if you feel it will add credibility to your campaigning. Thanks.

  • As soon as he gets the green light I'm sure he will act.

  • this request may make him see red

  • he may be a little short on time to fully commit to this cause.

  • Maybe he's ambervalent on this matter.

  • Oh, so no-one else has noticed this :/

    The crossover juction - Hoe St / High Rd(A112) / Lea Bridge Rd(A104) is like the one on Rossebury Avenue.
    When at the Lea Bridge lights - facing Hackney, the traffic from the right hand side turn (High Rd) always spills over, i train out this way alot and have seen quite a few cars run into eachother when not expecting the cars to keep coming from the right. I think the lights actually overlap slightly.

  • It's logistical incorrectness gone mad.

  • The top of Tottenham Court Road going straight on to Eversholt St is really dangerous for this. It can still be green as you leave TCR, but then it goes through amber and then on to red before you're safely over the length of the junction. I've had a few hairy moments.

  • Eversholt st or Hampstead rd?

  • I'm sure there used to be a definite Red/Red moment before the other stream of traffic got to go, that does not seem to happen anymore.

    It brings to mind Ken having all the traffic lights re-timed on the day that the congestion charge started so that he could have some good figures for PR purposes.

  • Eversholt st or Hampstead rd?

    Eversholt. I think.

    Um.

  • Very observing BMMF. I spoke to a GLA consultant about a year ago and he mentioned that this is one of BJ his plans to reduce congestion. During the Livingston years pedestrians got more time to cross and lights stayed longer red in order to make it less appealing to drive into town and encourage people to use public transport etc.
    Boris Johnson & Co realised this and saw an excellent opportunity to ease congestion without excessive costs.

  • It's incredibly dangerous, compounded by the impatience of many road users.

    Help us, oh-be-Schick, you're our only hope...

  • It's straight on to Hampstead rd, round to the right for Euston rd then left on to Eversholt.
    Crossing straight on to Hampstead rd shouldn't be a problem; even if the light turns red on the first set you can get through the second on amber; even on red there is time before the cars come from the left or the pedestrians start to cross. The last ticket I got was for creeping forward from the first set to the second on red; no peds around, just an unmarked police car behind me - which is cheating I think.
    Turning right on to Euston shouldn't be difficult either; unless the timings have changed in the last few days. Wait at the set just behind the bike lane crossing, change, away you go. Not sure what the problem is? Unless you are one of those people pushing such a big gear that they take an eternity to get away from the lights?

  • Yeah, it takes me an eternity to get that 59" moving.

  • @ will: well whatever road it is; I'm not wrong. I do it all the time and I don't go slowly, as you know, seeing as how I, like, totally beat you last time. So shove it :p

  • Yeah, it takes me an eternity to get that 59" moving.

    I wasn't talking to you spin-gurl

  • @ will: well whatever road it is; I'm not wrong. I do it all the time and I don't go slowly, as you know, seeing as how I, like, totally beat you last time. So shove it :p

    I bow to your greater experience. (and maybe edit this to add a :p)

  • [QUOTE=BringMeMyFix;1113411]it is TFL, isn't it?
    [QUOTE]

    I think it's the Highways Department.

    The temporary lights at the top of Gt Dover St were a nightmare for this. You'd get a green, set off and next thing you know there's a stream of oncoiming traffic.

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