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• #2
isn't that a "path" frame hilary?
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• #3
Dude its just a path frame, its probably built just after Holdsworth took over FG Grubb, if its freddie grubb at all. If it is FG Grubb 1972+ its most likely just a 531 plain gague "Path" frame. Sililar one went on ebay for like £90 inc postage, didnt look like a proper track frame but wasnt drilled for rear brake and no forks.
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• #4
and "corect" has two "r" s :)
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• #5
do you ship to Portugal?how much would be the shipping?
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• #6
This frame is NOT 531 plain gauge – if it was it would take a 26.4 or 26.6mm seatpost not 27.2mm. **
Path is simply another word for track, and does not have a different** meaning. The Americans have in more recent times misunderstood the word and attached meaning to it that make no sense. This is a road-track frame designed for use on the road and track, that is why it has mudguard eyes. Most track frames built in the 1950s were built as dual-use road-track frames, many riders would also time-trial on their track frames and they would often also be used for training during the winter, money to have several different frames for each part of the sport was mostly not available.
The details are all correct for this being a Holdsworth built Freddie Grubb. Frames prior to Holdsworth buying the name and some of the stock after the bankruptcy in 1951 were known as F H Grubb. Holdsworth always used the name Freddie Grubb on the ones they built. The Nervex Pro lugs are of the type post 1955 so my best guess is that this frame was built in the late 50s. The seatstay eyes, curved seatstay bridge and fork crown are all in the Holdsworth style for this period. It is wrong to think that all the Freddie Grubb badged frames were cheap ones – there are ssmall numbers of higher end frames built from 531 double-butted tubing. The cheap ones also did not use a complete Nervex Pro lug and BB shell set - these were expensive components in the time. The cheaper frames tended to use Nervex Serie Legere or cheaper lugs...
Hilary
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• #7
SHIPPING TO PORTUGAL (and anywhere else in Western Europe) will cost 30 GBP.
Hilary
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• #8
I think it's a lovely little frame... Gonna need a bit of work to bring it up to scratch but not a bad price... Nice fork crown and wrap over stays... Looks just like my old Phillips...
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• #9
i think its quite funny when people try to second guess hilary because his knowledge probably passes what 50% of this forum knows combined
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• #10
i built my own fixie skidder so i doubt he knows more than me ;)
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• #11
i built my own fixie skidder so i doubt he knows more than me ;)
I built my own bike WITH BRAKES ON, which means i know more than 99% of all of youse!
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• #12
its one thing building it up but its another knowing its history...
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• #13
Just reduced the price...
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• #14
If Hilary said Anquetil was British......I would probably believe him [wish he was]!.....Hilary knows his stuff and then some.......cyclists in the 50's were not that rich and would use their bikes for a multitude of tasks. A friend would go to time trials on his path frame and change the wheels for race wheels at the start and even use it for touring......and when he went on the track he would just remove the front brake.
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• #15
And if anyone buys this I have a Freddie Grubb headbadge to suit. Would make a lovely restoration...
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• #16
PM'd about the FG
Br
Hi everyone,
I’ve just sorted out a rather nice track frame from the late 50s which is thought to be a Freddie Grubb. .Shipping on frames within the UK will be £11 - other items can ship free of charge in the same box. I can ship anywhere in the world at a reasonable cost.
ALL ITEMS ARE IN BRISTOL
Payment can be via bank transfer (preferred), cheque or the dreaded Paypal which costs me 3%…
** If you dib an item, please PM me and pay the same day unless you make other arrangements with me. **
Viewing/Personal collection is welcome as quite a few have found and have been able to get other parts they are looking for at the same time.
Hilary Stone
FREDDIE GRUBB TRACK FRAME 1970s 59cm
Seat Tube (ctt): 22in (56cm)
Top Tube (ctc): 22.25in (56.5cm)
Rear dropout width: 115mm
Wheel size: 27in/700C
Brake drop with 700C wheel: 57mm
Seatpost size: 27.2mm
This is thought to be a Freddie Grubb built track frame - it certainly looks corect and is built with Nervex Pro lugs and bottom bracket and obviously Reynolds 531 double butted tubing. Its in very nice condition, powdercoated red with just one tiny ding on one side of the top tube. It has had braze-ons added for a rear carrier and hub brakes front and rear – these could of course be easily removed. £145 REDUCED to £130